Version 5.0 Discussion Thread

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  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 694
    edited January 11
    Manthro wrote: »
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    And the class advantage is not shown here in arena. It is shown in missions though.


    And my ads are unavailable either in mobile or in WIFI network. Android player.
  • ManthroManthro Posts: 1,118
    Manthro wrote: »
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    And the class advantage is not shown here in arena. It is shown in missions though.


    And my ads are unavailable either in mobile or in WIFI network. Android player.

    Class advantage is shown in arena... My 3* Galvatron is only 2/20:

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  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 694
    They've added green and red arrows next to the avatar in missions fighting screen, but not the Arena.
    Class advantage is shown in arena... My 3* Galvatron is only 2/20:

  • kranderskranders Posts: 190
    Well hopefully it's a small update to facilitate a larger 6.0 overhaul. Regardless Magnus is fixed and I get some free energon so I'm happy!
  • Manthro wrote: »
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    And the class advantage is not shown here in arena. It is shown in missions though.

    And my ads are unavailable either in mobile or in WIFI network. Android player.

    Regarding the class advantage in arena, that's a known issue that we're fixing for the next update. :)

    For the ad's question, do you see the options to watch them and it's just disabled? Or are they missing completely? Wifi vs data shouldn't matter...
  • DaveJL wrote: »
    I don't understand the value in being able to see what we don't have if I'm honest. How on earth does it enhance our experience? I'm pretty sure most people know what they don't have and most will know what they want regardless.

    My only thoughts are that if you're seeing a lot of grey, it might be a subliminal incentive to buy more crystals and appeal to the collector side of people that want it all. Just seems like another trick to wring money from people, just like the crystal spinner and how it conveniently lands next to or between 4* characters to give you the illusion of being close.
    camaro57 wrote: »
    I like that it shows all characters in roster even ones I don't have. This will be useful for new players.

    @camaro57 is on the right track. This feature was added primarily for new players to help them understand what Bots are available for them to collect and play with, but it should help existing players figure out who else is out there if they are missing one of their favorites.

    I understand it doesn't feel like a substantial feature right now, but it sets a foundation for us to build on and expand if it's well received. :)
  • KittenPrimeKittenPrime Posts: 364
    Kabam Kavs wrote: »
    Manthro wrote: »
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    And the class advantage is not shown here in arena. It is shown in missions though.

    And my ads are unavailable either in mobile or in WIFI network. Android player.

    Regarding the class advantage in arena, that's a known issue that we're fixing for the next update. :)

    For the ad's question, do you see the options to watch them and it's just disabled? Or are they missing completely? Wifi vs data shouldn't matter...

    Next update.. 3.4 confirmed
  • redshift9redshift9 Posts: 82
    It may not be the biggest update, but how can you not like the free energon and energy!

    Exactly. Plus, I can finally stop worrying/complaining about that loading screen issue! Woo hoo! (It didn’t affect most people, so if you don’t know what I’m talking about, don’t worry.)
  • AAGZ0921AAGZ0921 Posts: 92
    New update. Same insane crashing.
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 159
    Kabam Kavs wrote: »
    DaveJL wrote: »
    I don't understand the value in being able to see what we don't have if I'm honest. How on earth does it enhance our experience? I'm pretty sure most people know what they don't have and most will know what they want regardless.

    My only thoughts are that if you're seeing a lot of grey, it might be a subliminal incentive to buy more crystals and appeal to the collector side of people that want it all. Just seems like another trick to wring money from people, just like the crystal spinner and how it conveniently lands next to or between 4* characters to give you the illusion of being close.
    camaro57 wrote: »
    I like that it shows all characters in roster even ones I don't have. This will be useful for new players.

    @camaro57 is on the right track. This feature was added primarily for new players to help them understand what Bots are available for them to collect and play with, but it should help existing players figure out who else is out there if they are missing one of their favorites.

    I understand it doesn't feel like a substantial feature right now, but it sets a foundation for us to build on and expand if it's well received. :)

    it's more the fact that this must have been done, as well as all the graphical updates, in place of some new, solid content or updates to actual content that are much needed. It doesn't even differentiate between rarity, so all I get to see now is that dumb G1 Bee that I can't even obtain any more.
  • quick question:
    I see as grey bot in my roster the G1 Bumblebee that you made available throught crystals in the holidays, but it shouldn't be available anymore.
    Does this mean there is still a chance to get him even if the event ended?
  • ManthroManthro Posts: 1,118
    quick question:
    I see as grey bot in my roster the G1 Bumblebee that you made available throught crystals in the holidays, but it shouldn't be available anymore.
    Does this mean there is still a chance to get him even if the event ended?

    Nope. Not until his exclusive crystal returns... If ever.
  • HalloweendmHalloweendm Posts: 124
    It may not be the biggest update, but how can you not like the free energon and energy!
    Its not free, its "free"--as in you don't have to pay money for it, but what you have to do is give up your time (if you want the "free" stuff) and give up space on your base's page (even if you don't want to), and that's cluttered too much already IMO.

    Instead of making it quasi-opt in since the button for the ad is there whether we want it or not, how about making it actually an opt-in thing and let us choose whether that button (or any others) appears on our screen or not. If there's a toggle for sound or whatever, why not a toggle for the advertisement button?
  • Darm0kDarm0k Posts: 30
    Kabam Kavs wrote: »
    @camaro57 is on the right track. This feature was added primarily for new players to help them understand what Bots are available for them to collect and play with, but it should help existing players figure out who else is out there if they are missing one of their favorites.

    I understand it doesn't feel like a substantial feature right now, but it sets a foundation for us to build on and expand if it's well received. :)

    The greyed out bots don't show rarity. It would be good to know which are available in what rarity. I'm sure there are some 2*s that don't have 4*s or 3*s or vice versa.
  • OP7842OP7842 Posts: 23
    Where does it say rarity?
  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 694
    Kabam Kavs wrote: »
    For the ad's question, do you see the options to watch them and it's just disabled? Or are they missing completely? Wifi vs data shouldn't matter...
    The ads were OK once I connected to the WIFI at home, must be my mobile ISP or something.
  • that1guythat1guy Posts: 62
    It may not be the biggest update, but how can you not like the free energon and energy!
    Its not free, its "free"--as in you don't have to pay money for it, but what you have to do is give up your time (if you want the "free" stuff) and give up space on your base's page (even if you don't want to), and that's cluttered too much already IMO.

    Instead of making it quasi-opt in since the button for the ad is there whether we want it or not, how about making it actually an opt-in thing and let us choose whether that button (or any others) appears on our screen or not. If there's a toggle for sound or whatever, why not a toggle for the advertisement button?

    Damn, I can't believe someone is actually complaining about free energon, wait I mean, quasi-free energon.

    Yeah.
  • ManthroManthro Posts: 1,118
    that1guy wrote: »
    It may not be the biggest update, but how can you not like the free energon and energy!
    Its not free, its "free"--as in you don't have to pay money for it, but what you have to do is give up your time (if you want the "free" stuff) and give up space on your base's page (even if you don't want to), and that's cluttered too much already IMO.

    Instead of making it quasi-opt in since the button for the ad is there whether we want it or not, how about making it actually an opt-in thing and let us choose whether that button (or any others) appears on our screen or not. If there's a toggle for sound or whatever, why not a toggle for the advertisement button?

    Damn, I can't believe someone is actually complaining about free energon, wait I mean, quasi-free energon.

    Yeah.

    Proof that you can never please 100% of the people no matter what you do.
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 159
    They have to offer something or you wouldn't watch the ads - the bigger concern is the need for ads. I think that's the more overlooked thing here.
    Realistically the ads are only in there because the game can't be making enough money from energon sales and special offers, which isn't good for the longevity or future development of the game.
    Also better hope that one of the ads isn't for a game that looks more fun than this one... Sniper Arena looked tempting, as did another shoot'em up!
  • I just play the ad, run to the frig for a beer... I have no clue what the add is for.
  • TrailfireTrailfire Posts: 569
    The ads are cool. Half of them actually look like fun games

    I’ve been downloading and keeping most of the games for the time being and I’ll actually try them out on the weekend - if TFTF need adds to stay afloat, I intend to click on them to make sure the pay rate is as high as possible, because those fees are keeping the game I enjoy afloat

    Hope other players click through as much as possible too :)
  • TerminalTerminal Posts: 711
    Trailfire wrote: »
    The ads are cool. Half of them actually look like fun games

    I’ve been downloading and keeping most of the games for the time being and I’ll actually try them out on the weekend - if TFTF need adds to stay afloat, I intend to click on them to make sure the pay rate is as high as possible, because those fees are keeping the game I enjoy afloat

    Hope other players click through as much as possible too :)

    That's a good point, it's good way for people to support the game, especially for the f2p.
  • The loading screen issue is not fixed for me, bumped into it 3 times already, twice in arena (and lost the fight) once in daily mission (won the fight!)

    Note that in that case, the game doesn't (seem to) react to network disconnection.

    Android 7.1.1 on OnePlus 5T

    Same for the force close issue, that happens at the beginning of a fight most of the time.
    Still occurs twice a day
  • Darm0kDarm0k Posts: 30
    Maybe I’ll start clicking on ads when they bring back milestones to the arenas. ;)

    I kid I kid. Okay maybe not. I wonder if they get paid for views and clicks, or just clicks...
  • Arcterus_PrimeArcterus_Prime Posts: 13
    edited January 18
    Anyone else having chat bugs and issues sending messages after the most recent update? :/
  • Promethium1Promethium1 Posts: 258
    Anyone else having chat bugs and issues sending messages after the most recent update? :/

    Maybe you were chat banned?
  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 694
    Is it enough to just view them, or do we have to install those advertised games so that Kabam can get revenue?
  • MVSteveMVSteve Posts: 8
    Is it possible to get an update where just and only known issues are the target? Leave bringing some new subtle features alone for a bit. Or would that be boring? I got more crashing with this one. I would appreciate the game more if I could play without 28 crashes in a day (my latest since update) versus seeing new stuff.
  • so basically let me understand:
    they started adding OPTIONAL ads, that give you 15 Energon cubes each 24 hours, spending a total of 180 seconds, and people are complaining?

    I'd understand if the feature would have been bugged and after the ad you wouldn't receive the cubes, but I don't get why people are complaining.

    I hope, at least, that they're not complaining for the same feature for the energies.
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 159
    so basically let me understand:
    they started adding OPTIONAL ads, that give you 15 Energon cubes each 24 hours, spending a total of 180 seconds, and people are complaining?

    I'd understand if the feature would have been bugged and after the ad you wouldn't receive the cubes, but I don't get why people are complaining.

    I hope, at least, that they're not complaining for the same feature for the energies.

    It's because we have essentially been given ads that if you don't watch then you're going to be at a slight disadvantage. They could have given us more energon by fixing the state of arena with milestones or better rewards, but we got ads. This is what 5.0 has brought us - not new content, not improved content, but advertisements. Granted it seems necessary, but the fact that adverts are necessary mean that the player base that spend money is not big enough to sustain this game, so if the ad revenue + spending players isn't enough, what comes next? Ads wont attract new players, and nor will it help retain players - so this kind of has to work or I doubt we will see a 6.0.
    People like me believe that new and improved content would have been a better update. I'm not complaining about the fact they are there, I am complaining about what they are there instead of.
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