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Shark attack team is sandbagging
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Now, I still won.. I just don't like the ai being cheesy.
Agree. Seems like some real teams just got sharkified.
Haven’t met any shark attack teams myself yet
At higher levels, we are already outclassed by opponent teams, do we really need to add this on top?
The coding should be changed to guarantee at least one balanced opponent team.
I do agree with the statement, cool idea.
But I am amazed how many people hate sandbagging. The goal in arena is to earn points. There isn’t a rule stating how.
Well I find it Ok since I have a lot of maxed 3* to sandbag my 6-15th fights. Beyond that it will be full 4* harvest time. I dunno why ppl make sandbag team of two r4 4*'s, I never needed that. maybe they don't keep any 3*'s.
Yeah, I’m with you about when the only choice is a sandbag team it isn’t ideal.
And your your right about the 3s. I know I carry hardly any 3s. My arena score is almost always 1-2%
I'm also taking your feedback on Sandbagging in general to the team.
You can't at this point in time, this question was asked and answered in another thread.
It's a legit tactic, I don't see anything wrong with it. We fight bots 2-3x our bot pi across many different game modes, and win.
I think people just need to put their big boy pants on and fight sharp, focus on best matchups to take down 2/3 of the battle in arena to keep the win streak alive when encountering a sandbag squad.
If you can take down the death squads for your 14/15 win streak regularly, then the sandbag team is no different.
It basically forces people to sandbag to not be disadvantaged, warping arena even further in to a state I'm sure was never intended. Optimus/Megatron teams never sandbagged.
I don't care if players do it, it's risk/reward scenario tactic.. but for ai to do it, it imbalances the design of scaling pi against your team as your streak increases, because if you don't sandbag, you get punished.
This is true for high-end players only. Those who can't afford a 8000+ team still struggle.
Here is what it normally looks like: the sandbag one is obvious, sometimes all 3 are sandbagging though.
@KillMasterC you don’t need a 8k+ team to get through arena. Highest opponent team I’ve seen in arena so far is 10k. As long you have a 5-6k team, you should be able to get through that.
Sometimes if I do come across a sandbag team, I put my weakest bot against the strongest bot just to try and see if I could win. I was pleasantly surprised when my usually useless R2 4* Hot Rod managed to win a R4 4* MM. Sometimes you might surprise yourself.
Might have to go back to having a 1 & 2* arena and then one for the 3 & 4* bots, only way to solve it I think.
In the case of specifically sharkticon sandbagging that's a bit more legitimate, since you have to pick the Sharkticon fight and aren't presented with three sharkticon teams, but even then... you still almost can't lose, because only the S1000 has S3 enabled, so it's two auto wins regardless.
Anyway, it's super easy to fix, just remove sandbag teams from the pool.
The whole thing can also be made up with fixed PI, it just uses names and players to make it seem more interesting.. the fact shark attack teams exist means it's extremely easy to do.
Filter the pool so there's no 1000-2000 pi gap between bots from ai teams, then randomise the bots and name if it needs more in that range, done.
Yeah, the "attack" rate is terrible