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Overpowered primal final boss in New Sanctum map
Davien
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Basically he thrash all 3 of my bots in difficulty 35.. IH OG prime and rachet only manage to down him till half HP. All 3 of these bots are almost max forged 4*. I don't find this new Sanctum map easier?
What's with primal's instant purification? No damaging debuffs can stick to him? Where did that came from? Doesn't even need to heavy to clear them.. His mods suppose to be same as OG Megatron in previous Sanctum?
Forcing us to up ultra magnus just for him? Who will even do that??
What's with primal's instant purification? No damaging debuffs can stick to him? Where did that came from? Doesn't even need to heavy to clear them.. His mods suppose to be same as OG Megatron in previous Sanctum?
Forcing us to up ultra magnus just for him? Who will even do that??
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Maybe he’s max sig. His sig makes DOT debuffs end faster. I wonder if there would be time to fuse tac Megatrons shock to him or if it’ll end before you get the chance.
Starscream tears Primal apart as well, although I agree that it's rough getting to that 15 hit combo. But if you get him below 75% he's a pushover with any Tact that isn't G1 Optimus
1) Primal is the final boss, and he's intended to be a team effort. Don't cry that you can't one shot him.
2) Two of your bots are terrible against him because all their damage is reliant on landing crits. The fact that you didn't even know he could reduce damaging debuff duration with his Sig shows that you aren't paying attention to your bot selection.
3) Pretty sure this map was intended to stop the prolific use of thousands of IH OG Rat squads, so I'm not surprised.
4) There are plenty of options besides UM but he is definitely a great choice against Primal.
5) Git gud.
6) the only mod on the map that needs to be adjusted is relentless assault.
We'll get better, just have to learn the new map
used OG prime..and it was night and day. Maybe I got lucky with an off AI because it was like fighting a regular bot
Primal is certainly a different challenge than Megatron. I'm also finding that the Bots I used to use heavily about Megatron aren't nearly as effective against Primal, but am also finding new Bots to use that I didn't really pay much attention to before.
As has already been said, Ultra Magnus and Star Scream are definitely some great counters, and I've had some luck with Dinobot as well. I would avoid Bots that rely on Bleed (RIP Bonecrusher, because he constantly heals Primal) or bots that rely on Critical hits to do their Damage. You can still make use of Crit Reliant Bots, but have to be constantly baiting out Heavy Attacks, and then watching out for the ensuing attacks after.
This might take some time to get used to, because Primal is certainly a completely different challenge than some of our previous AM bosses, but there are definitely some great counters out there.
Can go into ROTK and just keep practicing on that Primal. You’ll quickly learn how to fight him and be very familiar dodging his specials. A lot of sidestep counterattack helps.
you looking to join an alliance?
@JKL @DrShotgun thanks for the tips. will check out Prowl and good suggestion on ROTK..i was going start a post to see if we can have a training mode. nvm!
The problem with having to find alternate bots now is that to play at competitive level you really need r5 and high forge - this takes a long time so the time period inbetween is really awkward.
There's alot of good info in this thread
You can fuse a shock??
Yeah as I said. I wait for him to drop a heavy then fired my sp3. That way he only has one armor to accelerate. Better yet, fuse armor break first so he doesn't have armor at all.
I disagree. I use Ratchet against OP and have no issue. He is basically a cockroach and if played decently he literally can fight anything and not die.
Well, he reduces length of DEBUFFS per Each armor he has.
Go for permanent Armor break first and then shock.
No Mitigation of shock or any Debuff if there's no armor
It just happens that he inflicts bleeds too and primal will heal back to 100 and you can't guarantee if you'll be able maintain the combo meter
Now one is going to bring Star Scream to am. He is trash!
Speak for yourself.
If you're gonna call a bot trash, explain why.
Starscream is a good counter to the current meta. His basic ranged is essentially a direct damage armour breaker and nullifier.
There's some pretty awesome synergies you can build with him as well.
It was fun but lengthy.
https://youtu.be/HsZ09D308S0
I take him to AM and master spotlight...
You should pair ramjet with starscream and kickback, not only will your burn and stun debuffs last longer, but all your range shots will ignore 70% total armor the enemy has.
Prime, rat, IH are still good team in this current map 3.