Sky Assault 4

DAVID_HOWELL

So, sky assault 4 promises +25% anti evasion. I put a team together 5 star starscream 4 star star scream, waspinator and wind blade. This is 4 stacks of sky assault giving +100% anti-evade. Spoiler alert it doesn’t work. So having played Marvel for a long time I know Kabam will say it’s a description error and they don’t stack. But on the smallest chance that this is a stackable synergy. It would be incredible if Kabam will fix it to match the current description.

DaveJL

It doesn't work the same way - the synergy applies to the bots in question. You can see which synergys are active by going in that tab.

bummblezee3

what the heck is sky assalt?

Kabam Miike

Hey @DAVID_HOWELL,

So the Sky Assault synergy is not additive, but multiplicative. For example, let's use a bot with a 30% chance to evade to begin with.

-25% = 22%
-25% = 16%
etc.

A problem that we have with these kinds of synergies/abilities is that they're so invisible. There is no way to see how often it stops an evasion from occurring, so you're still just left seeing the ones that do.

Gunz0

bummblezee3 wrote: »

what the heck is sky assalt?

It's a synergy, you can tell by the OP's words

SparkShredder

@DAVID_HOWELL ,,well StarScream does not give synergy to himself and others also don't do that... So,, your starscreams are 50% Anti-evade while wasp and wind are 75% Anti evade

Voltron

SparkShredder wrote: »

@DAVID_HOWELL ,,well StarScream does not give synergy to himself and others also don't do that... So,, your starscreams are 50% Anti-evade while wasp and wind are 75% Anti evade

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey @DAVID_HOWELL,So the Sky Assault synergy is not additive, but multiplicative.

2 stacks of (+25%) is not 50%.... just like 50% off plus an additional 25% off is not 75% off.

SparkShredder

Voltron wrote: »

SparkShredder wrote: »

@DAVID_HOWELL ,,well StarScream does not give synergy to himself and others also don't do that... So,, your starscreams are 50% Anti-evade while wasp and wind are 75% Anti evade

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey @DAVID_HOWELL,So the Sky Assault synergy is not additive, but multiplicative.

2 stacks of (+25%) is not 50%.... just like 50% off plus an additional 25% off is not 75% off.

YEAH!!!
75% Anti evade means opponent triggers 75% less evades...
Means,,, CurrentEvadeChance - (75% of CEC)...
I meant the Anti Evade is 75% Although it works multiplicative to Evade chance

Voltron

but you are adding.. 3 stacks of anti evade is not 75% less. 3 stacks of anti evade is about 42% less.

let's reuse Miike's example of 30% chance of evade. With 3 stacks of 25% Anti evade, your evade chance will be about 12.66%:

30% CEC
- 25% Antievade
22.5 % CEC
- 25% Antievade
16.88 % CEC
- 25% Antievade
= 12.66% CEC

If you look at Kabam Miike's example above, you'll see the numbers match.

If we used your 75%..the 30% CEC will become 7.5% CEC..that is not correct.

SparkShredder

Voltron wrote: »

but you are adding.. 3 stacks of anti evade is not 75% less. 3 stacks of anti evade is about 42% less.

let's reuse Miike's example of 30% chance of evade. With 3 stacks of 25% Anti evade, your evade chance will be about 12.66%:

30% CEC
- 25% Antievade
22.5 % CEC
- 25% Antievade
16.88 % CEC
- 25% Antievade
= 12.66% CEC

If you look at Kabam Miike's example above, you'll see the numbers match.

Wait sky assault is multiplicative with itself? I thought it works multiplicative with evades and stacks in addition ..
My Bad

Voltron

yeah..anytime you're combining %..it's going to be multiplicative. Kabam made it a bit confusing because your combining synergies stacks (%) against a buff or debuff that is also a %.

no worries..it's a common mistake. just like spinning two bot crystals doesn't mean your percentage is doubled. I learn this the hard way when I tried to buy something that was an additional 25% off because i thought i was getting 75% off.

DAVID_HOWELL

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey @DAVID_HOWELL,

So the Sky Assault synergy is not additive, but multiplicative. For example, let's use a bot with a 30% chance to evade to begin with.

-25% = 22%
-25% = 16%
etc.

A problem that we have with these kinds of synergies/abilities is that they're so invisible. There is no way to see how often it stops an evasion from occurring, so you're still just left seeing the ones that do.

Thanks mike my error was an arrow pointing at wind blade was a different synergy that’s were I got the 100% anti evade. Much like the old MCOC block proficiency lol. You remember those days. That’s were I was confused. I got it figured out thanks so much for your great detailed response.