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Cyclonus question
Mr_Wonderful
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I’ll explain my problem first. Having just run through master, ultra Magnus gave me by far the hardest fight of all. Only sheer luck got me past those mods and almost constant unstoppable.
My master a-team currently consists of galvatron, g1 Megatron, shockwave, 5* grimlock (for attack synergy bonus more than anything) and I rotate between WJ and megatronus for my last spot, depending on how much I think I’ll need shockwave.
From my rewards, I popped 4* cyclonus, who obviously gives my team a great synergy bonus alongside megatronus. However this leaves me with a massive problem. I’m cool with doubling up on 1 class (demo or tech), but removing grim would mean I’m doubling up on tact as well as demo or tech. I’m kinda limited on other 4* options after a recent forging spree, so not got a great amount of decepticon options to use the synergies with.
I have 2 main questions I’d like to gauge opinion on, so first off; as Magnus was my main obstacle in master, does cyclonus counter every unstoppable Magnus procs, basically does his dark field also nullify spotlight mods?
And secondly, as my squad will be low on class variety, would it really be worth doubling up on both tact and another class (probably using Megatronus to make use of the synergy, so most likely demo)?
I have the resources to rank him up fairly quickly, and I’m happy to finish the rest of master in the meantime until he’s r5. But as megs is my usual go-to mod buster, does cyclonus have a space in my squad? I would be dropping grimlock in this instance, to make more room for synergy
My master a-team currently consists of galvatron, g1 Megatron, shockwave, 5* grimlock (for attack synergy bonus more than anything) and I rotate between WJ and megatronus for my last spot, depending on how much I think I’ll need shockwave.
From my rewards, I popped 4* cyclonus, who obviously gives my team a great synergy bonus alongside megatronus. However this leaves me with a massive problem. I’m cool with doubling up on 1 class (demo or tech), but removing grim would mean I’m doubling up on tact as well as demo or tech. I’m kinda limited on other 4* options after a recent forging spree, so not got a great amount of decepticon options to use the synergies with.
I have 2 main questions I’d like to gauge opinion on, so first off; as Magnus was my main obstacle in master, does cyclonus counter every unstoppable Magnus procs, basically does his dark field also nullify spotlight mods?
And secondly, as my squad will be low on class variety, would it really be worth doubling up on both tact and another class (probably using Megatronus to make use of the synergy, so most likely demo)?
I have the resources to rank him up fairly quickly, and I’m happy to finish the rest of master in the meantime until he’s r5. But as megs is my usual go-to mod buster, does cyclonus have a space in my squad? I would be dropping grimlock in this instance, to make more room for synergy
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Go to YouTube INightSkies just added a video playing Cyclonus in this months Spotlight Mission Chapter 1 against Motor Master
And yes Cyclonus does nullify Mods 😁👍👑💪
I maxed Cyclonus last month to face Master Spotlight Primal
Cyclonus is built for tough fighting, I really need to forge into him, but if a 5star Cyclonus comes my way that would be a different story lol 😂
I gave it a watch, and I like what I seen. I’m usually aggressive enough to get a regular pulse, and since it nullifies spotlight mods it opens up a new plan for my squad anyway. Having never used him extensively, I didn’t realise the pulse automatically activated on unstoppable dash regardless of whether it was already active after gaining a bar of power. That’s sweet.
I could rank up my unduped 5* megs to replace my duped 4*, and get the armour bonus for the rest of my team as well. The mod removal with megs sig was what put me off doing so already, but if cyclonus does it anyway..... can’t see why not now.
Is cyclonus added to the 5* shards pool yet? I got a 5* today and didn’t see him during the spin. Or maybe in the 3-5* bot crystals? Feel like I kinda underestimated him, in comparison to megatron
Cyclonus will nullify the unstoppable from a mod, but the bot has to be dash in with an attack. If it’s just a normal attack, it won’t proc.
Also be aware that the Cyclonus dark field is a little buggy and sometimes won’t trigger when it’s supposed to.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the unstoppable dash can’t be sidestepped, or is it possible to sidestep at the last moment and still get the pulse?
I’d heard it was buggy, but I guess it’s part of the risk of taking a hit, ain’t it? I usually forgo building shock charges with shockwave and play aggressively, out of sheer habit of playing like that with every other bot. Can usually keep them at sp1 at most and most sp1’s are east to dodge anyway, so it doesn’t affect me too much. Purposefully having to take a dash though, will take some getting used to..... I’ll give it a go and see how it fares
I know for sure Cyclonus isn’t in the 5* pool yet 😕
Also, his DARK FIELD does stop ALL UNSTOPPABLE attacks, albeit those launched from a distance of >2 bot lengths away.
Learned the hard way
In my experiences, Cyclonus is a decent niche bot...too useful to forge away but not good enough to put in an "A" lineup. That's just me though. He can be great at nullifying mods and dealing with unstoppable but, as others have mentioned and as you may have read in that thread about Cyclonus and unstoppable, the stun doesn't always trigger.
Also, when I'm using Cyclonus his Dark Field also throws me off sometimes. For example, if I'm dishing out a melee combo looking to launch a special there are times where the DF will trigger and actually push away the bot messing up my combo and costing me my chance to use a special. Conversely, there are times where I'm getting hit with melee looking to revenge and maybe use a special where the DF will trigger and push the bot away, costing me my chance to hit back. Yeah, I mean sometimes it can be good a thing when a bot that is hitting you is pushed away but then there are times where I'd rather just eat another hit or two and take the opportunity to counterattack.
The lineup I bring is very much mod-dependent but it often contains 5* (G1) Megatron, 5* Shockwave and 4* Megatronus so Cylconus would fit in there but I just consider him a "specialist" at this point. I'm not really a Galvatron user either. I like to bring the bots I use best/have the most fun with or who will help me most with a particular mod and often times Cyclonus doesn't fit in there.
If you had trouble with Magnus then it might be worthwhile to take up Cyclonus to deal with the Focused Frenzy path anyways. Maybe take him up a few ranks and try him out in Arena?
Yes, it triggers during a side step during an unstoppable dash attack — that is, when it works.
I’ve been sidestepping dash attacks (or back stepping) just to dodge in case the dark field doesn’t proc. If it does, you still have enough stun time to mount a counter attack.
Cool, it helps to know that safety net is there if need be. I’m aggressive but not overly risky when I can be, unstoppable Magnus was a nightmare for me.
Thanks for the help as well, I noticed the pulse interfering with combos as well. Suppose there’s s compromise there, but if I’m dropping duped megs then I’ll take it.
I use galvatron quite a lot too, so the synergy will fit in nicely there. Most of my problems are built around the opponents mods rather than my own team, probably why I took my cons as my a-team rather than my autobot squad. I can live without healing with ogp-ratchet and WJ if the main threat to me is weakened.
This thread has been really helpful, thanks guys. Like I said earlier, I underestimated how useful he could be
After leveling him up, duping then maxing the 4*...
He's replaced G1 Megs as my go-to Tact.
Yes, he doesn't hit particularly hard, but his sidestep, dodging mechanics are pretty great.
His combos, when timed with dark field, pretty much enables 2 sets of melees, topped off with a SP1 or SP2.
His nullify causes slight damage, enough to disarm Wheeljack's shields (timing!).
An arena and raid king, but somewhat suspect in AM.
Totally destroys any version of 5* MV Prime or Primal, despite just a maxed 4*.
Unless that 5* Primal is the one in AM Map 3.xx!
I had mixed feelings too, at first. Once I max him later today I’m gonna slap him on base defence with SC1000 (robotronus has RR naturally) and see how he goes. If he’s going to be part of my spotlight team, might as well make his DF a nuisance for others while I’m at it.
Raid team is autobots, with grim of course, so he might not fit in as much there. But liking what I’m seeing so far. I couldn’t take megs out of my spotlight team in any capacity, and I have UM in my spotlight team just for primal anyway, so spotlight primal isn’t really a concern there.
Just noticed, I’m gonna need more purple cons, there’s a theme building there in my spotlight team. Hopefully we see new bots soon, but that’s for another thread
Didn’t get him, of course. Just never noticed him there before
A ranged demo (IH, MV Megs, GALVATRON, Tronus) makes such easy work of him it might as well be an empty node.
Unless you pair him with a 4* EMI.
No wait, he's awesome, everyone PLEASE fill your bases with 3X Cyclonus.
Especially with RR!
I'LL REJECT YOUR BASE, TREMBLING.
Scary!
A base to FEAR.
Hmmm, fair enough. It was just a passing thought. And primal has the 4* emi module just now so that’s that out the window lol
Maybe Cyclonus will be next months 5* ? When I spun I didn’t see a 5* Cyclonus maybe a game bug leak ?