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Error with Forging bots Forge XP does not carry over correctly š
Jazz444
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Hello Kabam and TFTF players,
My friends asked me a question whatās the correct way to forge a bot ?
Forge everything right into a 4star? Or forge 2stars into 3stars 1st ?
Well I just did an experiment and we are losing XP on every bot we forge into the next tier
Such as 2*s into 3*s then into 4*s
We gain more forge XP by putting our bots separately directly into our 4stars
This is a HUGE error we are supposed to gain forge XP by forging into our lower tiers 1st š
My friends asked me a question whatās the correct way to forge a bot ?
Forge everything right into a 4star? Or forge 2stars into 3stars 1st ?
Well I just did an experiment and we are losing XP on every bot we forge into the next tier
Such as 2*s into 3*s then into 4*s
We gain more forge XP by putting our bots separately directly into our 4stars
This is a HUGE error we are supposed to gain forge XP by forging into our lower tiers 1st š
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Here are some pics to prove thereās a Forge error please let me explain some more information below
Pic#2 3star Hot Rod max on sig 45
Pic#3 my 3star Hot Rod would make Arcee go from forge 43 to 51 š
Pic#4 2star Bludgeon max on sig 75
Pic#5 Bludgeon would make Arcee go from forge 43 to 45 not bad for a 2*
Pic#6 Hot Rod 3star and Bludgeon 2star separately would make Arcee Forge lvl from 43 to lvl 53 XP 92/2,755
Pic#7 I Forged my 2* Bludgeon into 3* Hot Rod
Pic#8 now that the 2star is inside the 3star look š at the small loss this shouldnāt be
When they were separated Arceeās forge bar was lvl53 92/2,755
Now that 2* Bludgeon is in 3* Hot Rod Arceeās forge bar says lvl53 50/2,755
So I lost 42 XP by forging a 2star into the 3* 1st š not much but
Iāve been forging my 3stars into 4stars before forging into 5stars
Can you imagine how much XP Iām losing
We gain more XP by forging everything into 4*s or 5*s separately š I believe it after this experience
If any Kabam members can look into this that would be great š
I think we should definitely be getting a special Forge bonus by forging into lower tiers 1st
Take care guys please share your comments on this little issue here
I hope this gets fixed Kabam š
Yours truly,
windbee prime
I've suspected for a while that the forge preview uses a different algorithm than the one used when actually forging. The preview is done client side, while the forge is done server side. Something's off between the two. My best uneducated guess is that the bonus for forging the same bot or same class is handled differently. E.g. perhaps the client side algo applies the bonus multiplier to the consumed bot's accumulated forge exp or sig bonus while the server side algo doesn't.
To actually verify whether you lose forge exp or not would be tricky. You can't unforge a bot after trying it one way, so you'd have to have two identical setups using two sets of bots with the same levels, forge exp, sigs, and class bonuses. Not really something you can easily do on a whim.
So itās true we are losing Forge XP by forging into our 3stars
Iāll just put everything separately into 4stars and 5stars
calling all alt accounts!
The higher the sig level the more shards you get
The higher the rank of your bot the more forge XP you get
But Do not forge into your 3stars you lose a little XP
I donāt recommend forging into your 4stars if your going to put them into a 5star
Cause youād lose XP on every bot you forge into
So definitely if your working on 5stars just throw any bot in separately for more forge XP š
One thing you're also forgetting is the extra forge XP you get from same bot/class. For example, if you forge a 2* Grindor into a 3* Grindor and then a 5* Drift vs the two Grindors into Drift individually. You will lose out on the bonus XP.
The amount of Forge XP a bot grants is static. The target that the Bot is being Forged into doesn't matter, although higher Tiers do require more Forge XP to increase their Forge Level.
Forge XP granted is determined by the Rank and Level of the bot, but partial Level progress will not be factored in. For example, a Rank 2 bot that just hit Level 9 provides the same Forge XP as a Rank 2 Level 9 bot that's almost at Level 10.
Keep in mind that there are XP bonuses for matching the same Class, and for matching the same Bot.
But I see no reward bonus to fully forge a 3star before forging into a 4star and a tiny bit of forge XP gets lost,
But by putting everything right into a 4star separately I still get the same rewards
So maybe it depends on how players wish to forge into 4stars
Iāve found itās better to but everything separately into 4stars
P.S. if you wanna close this thread now your more than welcome to š
Perhaps players have experienced a better forge performance than me?
All I see is
The bigger the Signature level the more shards you get
And the higher you rank up the bot using Sparks, Gold, and Ore-13 the higher your forge XP becomes when you forge the bot into your 4star,
But if you forge 2stars into 3stars before putting the 3stars into your 4stars a little bit of forging XP is lost
I just wanted to share my thoughts on forging bots separately is more efficient than forging into lower tiers 1st š
As Iāve said before I Forged into my 3stars 1st and lost some Xp
Because forging lower tiers into 4star bots separately gives you a tiny bit more XP š
It doesnāt matter what Forge level your bot or mod is on
The signature ability level is what gives you shards š
The formula for shard reward for 2 and 3* bots is
(7.5*rankĀ²-12.5*rank+25) + 1*level + 11*sig
For 4* bots, just multiply all of it by 5.
Shards = (2*starĀ² - 10*star + 13) * ( (7.5*rankĀ²-12.5*rank+25) + 1*level + 11*sig) )
I was just trying to say that the level of your bot doesnāt concern the shards
The signature level gives you shards
But thank you for sharing the Signature actually provides forge XP also awesome š