I have one question. As a standalone bot. Does Primal actually purify Harm Accelerators or he doesn't? Because I tried a couple of times in raids with him and he doesn't purify and heal from it with his signature unlocked.
No he doesn't.primal is good defensively but not the best for raids. Grimlock may purify a debuff but you must use mv1, best counter to bonecrusher, he can only have 1 bleed or if he gets 2 he purifies 1 into power .
Not the best for raids? If he is alone you are right. If he has two other beasts with him he is by far the best.
Aight. He can't be better than mv1. Primal gets armor by taking hits and you don't want to get hit. Mv1 is just better. Primal is good with synergies but mv1 is better ALONE
But he’s Michael bay
Michael bay prime is one of the strongest primes. Mv1 is way better than Grimlock, Grimlock still takes damage, mv1 can HEAL,
I have one question. As a standalone bot. Does Primal actually purify Harm Accelerators or he doesn't? Because I tried a couple of times in raids with him and he doesn't purify and heal from it with his signature unlocked.
No he doesn't.primal is good defensively but not the best for raids. Grimlock may purify a debuff but you must use mv1, best counter to bonecrusher, he can only have 1 bleed or if he gets 2 he purifies 1 into power .
Not the best for raids? If he is alone you are right. If he has two other beasts with him he is by far the best.
Aight. He can't be better than mv1. Primal gets armor by taking hits and you don't want to get hit. Mv1 is just better. Primal is good with synergies but mv1 is better ALONE
You quoted what I wrote maybe you should re-read it. Oh and by the way Primal, unless he is permanently armor broken, automatically generates an armor buff-no need to block. If he heavies it converts into a melee buff and he generates a new armor buff in 6 seconds.
It's blatantly obvious you're biased.
TO GET MORE HE NEEDS TO TAKE HITS. Grimlock is utter trash unduped and still not better than mv1, he can't do well against bonecrusher like mv1 can
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
Would Primal or Tantrum be viable for the likes of ROK Bonecrusher? I've no doubt MV1 or Grimlock could take them on without much difficulty but what about the above mentioned two? Primal with the Beast Wars squad, activating the beast purification and Tantrum's signature against him.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
If you use a Primal SP3 to get 10 armors and you can adapt and are willing to fight without using heavies his stack of 10 armors will get rid of all debuffs 80% faster....pretty much as good as Grimlock's purify.
I have one question. As a standalone bot. Does Primal actually purify Harm Accelerators or he doesn't? Because I tried a couple of times in raids with him and he doesn't purify and heal from it with his signature unlocked.
No he doesn't.primal is good defensively but not the best for raids. Grimlock may purify a debuff but you must use mv1, best counter to bonecrusher, he can only have 1 bleed or if he gets 2 he purifies 1 into power .
Not the best for raids? If he is alone you are right. If he has two other beasts with him he is by far the best.
Aight. He can't be better than mv1. Primal gets armor by taking hits and you don't want to get hit. Mv1 is just better. Primal is good with synergies but mv1 is better ALONE
You quoted what I wrote maybe you should re-read it. Oh and by the way Primal, unless he is permanently armor broken, automatically generates an armor buff-no need to block. If he heavies it converts into a melee buff and he generates a new armor buff in 6 seconds.
It's blatantly obvious you're biased.
TO GET MORE HE NEEDS TO TAKE HITS. Grimlock is utter trash unduped and still not better than mv1, he can't do well against bonecrusher like mv1 can
This is why you block with primal. The exact same strategy applies with Magnus as well.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
If MV1 gets caught by Ironhides SP2 and SP3 then he is gone. Even if his sig activates the burns will get straight through it. It merely tickles primal
Mv1 cant prevent kickbacks power leaks if hit. Primal can.
If MV1 gets caught by mixmaster sp2 and 3 by acid he is also gone
Bumblebee can still deal heaps of damage to MV1 because he crits like crazy. Primal can also tank these.
Stop being biased. MV1 is my favourite but even he has his cons. Everyone has a different playstyle so stop arguing with everyone
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
If you use a Primal SP3 to get 10 armors and you can adapt and are willing to fight without using heavies his stack of 10 armors will get rid of all debuffs 80% faster....pretty much as good as Grimlock's purify.
This. Thhus really helps in the long run because even to begin with one Armor Buff, most sources of bleed are gone, but with 10 Armors it makes all DoT Debuffs non-existent.
Also, if you're able to gain another SP3 while having 10 Armor Buffs, you can heavy to gain 10 Melee Buffs, and when you launch you're SP3, all the Melee Buffs will stay intact for the SP3. Now that's a lot of Damage.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
Technically, any bot can take any bot with ease, with the exception of bonecrusher. That’s just a matter of player skill. There’s no fear to be had from taking grimlock or primal against a shock block mod. Prime won’t help there. And yeah, practically invincible, against standard damage hits. The main point of prime, primal, grimlock and tantrum is to deal with dot, which as mentioned, will melt through primes armour if it’s not bleed.
Sorry, prime is good. But he’s not the best option.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
If you use a Primal SP3 to get 10 armors and you can adapt and are willing to fight without using heavies his stack of 10 armors will get rid of all debuffs 80% faster....pretty much as good as Grimlock's purify.
This. Thhus really helps in the long run because even to begin with one Armor Buff, most sources of bleed are gone, but with 10 Armors it makes all DoT Debuffs non-existent.
Also, if you're able to gain another SP3 while having 10 Armor Buffs, you can heavy to gain 10 Melee Buffs, and when you launch you're SP3, all the Melee Buffs will stay intact for the SP3. Now that's a lot of Damage.
I can’t disagree with this. primal is a close second for me, only because not using heavies throws me off a bit
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
Technically, any bot can take any bot with ease, with the exception of bonecrusher. That’s just a matter of player skill. There’s no fear to be had from taking grimlock or primal against a shock block mod. Prime won’t help there. And yeah, practically invincible, against standard damage hits. The main point of prime, primal, grimlock and tantrum is to deal with dot, which as mentioned, will melt through primes armour if it’s not bleed.
Sorry, prime is good. But he’s not the best option.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
If you use a Primal SP3 to get 10 armors and you can adapt and are willing to fight without using heavies his stack of 10 armors will get rid of all debuffs 80% faster....pretty much as good as Grimlock's purify.
This. Thhus really helps in the long run because even to begin with one Armor Buff, most sources of bleed are gone, but with 10 Armors it makes all DoT Debuffs non-existent.
Also, if you're able to gain another SP3 while having 10 Armor Buffs, you can heavy to gain 10 Melee Buffs, and when you launch you're SP3, all the Melee Buffs will stay intact for the SP3. Now that's a lot of Damage.
I can’t disagree with this. primal is a close second for me, only because not using heavies throws me off a bit
But that's why Primal has the ability to gain Melee Buffs whenever he strikes a block. It's the perfect substitute from using a heavy because you can still benefit from it.
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
If MV1 gets caught by Ironhides SP2 and SP3 then he is gone. Even if his sig activates the burns will get straight through it. It merely tickles primal
Mv1 cant prevent kickbacks power leaks if hit. Primal can.
If MV1 gets caught by mixmaster sp2 and 3 by acid he is also gone
Bumblebee can still deal heaps of damage to MV1 because he crits like crazy. Primal can also tank these.
Stop being biased. MV1 is my favourite but even he has his cons. Everyone has a different playstyle so stop arguing with everyone
If you say those stuff about mv1 why did you vote for him? Also IF he were tagged he would not die if he had I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON activated although IH can counter him, he still would live.
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
True, Grimlock doesn't really do much unduped unlike Mv1.
But I still say that Primal is better than both, duped or unduped. To me ranking up Primal or Mv1 is a win/win situation; you can't go wrong with either. I just prefer Primal more, due to the fact that he can adapt to more situations
Primal isn't only good again Warrior Bots, he's great against Bots from a multitude of classes, due to his Critical Armor
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent. Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds. Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak. Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat. G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
If MV1 gets caught by Ironhides SP2 and SP3 then he is gone. Even if his sig activates the burns will get straight through it. It merely tickles primal
Mv1 cant prevent kickbacks power leaks if hit. Primal can.
If MV1 gets caught by mixmaster sp2 and 3 by acid he is also gone
Bumblebee can still deal heaps of damage to MV1 because he crits like crazy. Primal can also tank these.
Stop being biased. MV1 is my favourite but even he has his cons. Everyone has a different playstyle so stop arguing with everyone
If you say those stuff about mv1 why did you vote for him? Also IF he were tagged he would not die if he had I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON activated although IH can counter him, he still would live.
Did you read what i said? I said that MV1 was my favourite. I voted him becuse he he fits my playstyle. Doesn’t mean there is nothing wrong with him. And no, he will not still live from Ironhides sp2 or 3 with his sig activated. Opponents can still crit with MV1’s shields. Primals they can’t. And that means that Debuffs can still be applied to MV1. So that means shocks, burns, bleeds can still go through him and kill him.
Like i said i like MV1 then mos brawlers becaue he has the higher damage then most brawlers and i find him more agile. But he isn’t good at raids as some people say he is. Harm accelerator still kills him. Grimlock or synergy primal best at raids
I just pulled 2x 5* grimlocks yesterday also pulled a t4c brawler, so im veryinterested in this pool too.
I have a duped 5* mv1 and primal, leaning towards MV1 since I have no other duped Beastwars bots.
I just pulled 2x 5* grimlocks yesterday also pulled a t4c brawler, so im veryinterested in this pool too.
I have a duped 5* mv1 and primal, leaning towards MV1 since I have no other duped Beastwars bots.
I just pulled 2x 5* grimlocks yesterday also pulled a t4c brawler, so im veryinterested in this pool too.
I have a duped 5* mv1 and primal, leaning towards MV1 since I have no other duped Beastwars bots.
I just pulled 2x 5* grimlocks yesterday also pulled a t4c brawler, so im veryinterested in this pool too.
I have a duped 5* mv1 and primal, leaning towards MV1 since I have no other duped Beastwars bots.
Man that’s a good situation to be in.
I'd hate it - grass is always greener. I would rather just have my mind made up for me.
I think Primal if duped is the Brawler to go for though, Flavin. Stronger than MV1 for sure even without the BW synergy
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Ive had this problem with him before. We were talking about strongest prime incarnation and no matter how many facts you will give he will just ingore it. Best thing to do is just ignore him. Everyone knows his comments are irrelevant
I have one question. As a standalone bot. Does Primal actually purify Harm Accelerators or he doesn't? Because I tried a couple of times in raids with him and he doesn't purify and heal from it with his signature unlocked.
No he doesn't.primal is good defensively but not the best for raids. Grimlock may purify a debuff but you must use mv1, best counter to bonecrusher, he can only have 1 bleed or if he gets 2 he purifies 1 into power .
Not the best for raids? If he is alone you are right. If he has two other beasts with him he is by far the best.
Aight. He can't be better than mv1. Primal gets armor by taking hits and you don't want to get hit. Mv1 is just better. Primal is good with synergies but mv1 is better ALONE
You quoted what I wrote maybe you should re-read it. Oh and by the way Primal, unless he is permanently armor broken, automatically generates an armor buff-no need to block. If he heavies it converts into a melee buff and he generates a new armor buff in 6 seconds.
It's blatantly obvious you're biased.
There's no point in having a discussion with this fellow. Me Grimlock
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Ive had this problem with him before. We were talking about strongest prime incarnation and no matter how many facts you will give he will just ingore it. Best thing to do is just ignore him. Everyone knows his comments are irrelevant
Say that to the people who voted for mv1, which includes you
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Ive had this problem with him before. We were talking about strongest prime incarnation and no matter how many facts you will give he will just ingore it. Best thing to do is just ignore him. Everyone knows his comments are irrelevant
Say that to the people who voted for mv1, which includes you
No im only saying it to you. Not to the people who voted mv1. Because the other who voted MV1 don’t try cram their opinion down other people’s throats.
I’m not sure what you use for a team, but if you have the BW bots, Primal is the way to go.
I use all six of them and never regretted it once.
Optimus Primal is awesome in my opinion, and when paired up with the other beasts, he’s all that much better!
I really like his gameplay, and his attacks are cool too.
His special 3 is pretty crazy, but hey, sometimes crazy works 😁
I’m not sure what you use for a team, but if you have the BW bots, Primal is the way to go.
I use all six of them and never regretted it once.
Optimus Primal is awesome in my opinion, and when paired up with the other beasts, he’s all that much better!
I really like his gameplay, and his attacks are cool too.
His special 3 is pretty crazy, but hey, sometimes crazy works 😁
Particularly, Everyone's talking about the consequences of getting hit, improve your skills, dodge the attacks, sometimes getting hit mistakenly doesn't affect,
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Ive had this problem with him before. We were talking about strongest prime incarnation and no matter how many facts you will give he will just ingore it. Best thing to do is just ignore him. Everyone knows his comments are irrelevant
Say that to the people who voted for mv1, which includes you
The issue wasn’t that anyone was saying mv1 is bad, in certain situations he is the best bot to use. I include myself in that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so don’t disrespect ours because it differs from yours. In my opinion grimlock is the best standalone brawler to use. Primal if you include synergies. Your opinion clearly, is mv1, we get it. The problem was that you just disagreed without countering why others were saying there are better all round options, and this thread went from a simple question to quite a heated debate on the matter to put it kindly.
The only situation mv1 is maybe the best all round option is against bonecrusher. Obviously because he heals from bleeds. But will he save you from shock block/melee? No. Will his sig save you from a lucky shock charged heavy from shockwave? Again, no. Grimlock and primal deal with these no bother. Both are just as capable of dealing with bonecrusher. Valid points which you ignored. You rebuked FACTS about non class advantage fights primal excelled in, so by any means, keep your opinion. But it’s not right to step on someone else’s toes because they think differently from you.
You like the bay bots, feel free to use them to your hearts content. Personally I don’t use them for that exact reason. It doesn’t make them bad bots to use. But your bias towards bay bots kinda clouded your judgement and reason there, and boy was it obvious.
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Michael bay prime is one of the strongest primes. Mv1 is way better than Grimlock, Grimlock still takes damage, mv1 can HEAL,
TO GET MORE HE NEEDS TO TAKE HITS. Grimlock is utter trash unduped and still not better than mv1, he can't do well against bonecrusher like mv1 can
Ironhide: Known for his high Critical Damage in his Special Attacks. Primal's Armor will make those Crits non-existent.
Windblade: Needs to Crit in order for her Bleeds to work. Critical Armor will prevent Bleeds.
Kickback: Needs to Crit in order to inflict Power Leak. Critical Armor will prevent Crits and thus will prevent Power Leak.
Mixmaster: Acid Debuffs increase Critical Rate, which is useful for his Special Attacks. But it still doesn't work on Critical Armor
Barricade: Increases Critical Damage based on Opponent's Power, but that won't matter to Primal's Critical Armor
Ratchet: Critical Ranged hits inflict Shock, but Critical Ranged hits against critical Armor won't do squat.
G1 Bumblebee: Known for his high Crit Rate. That won't matter to Primal.
And there's the fact that if Primal is Duped, he can decrease duration of ALL DoT debuffs, making him even more useful. He can only heal from Bleeds however.
This is why I value Primal more than Mv1
Mv1 can take them all on with ease. May be not as RESISTANT like primal but mv1 is one of those bots suited for almost every situation, counters bonecrusher, take on every bot, etc. Also when he is at low health, when duped, he is practically invincible, and melee buffs, combined with special 1 wrecks. Also when blocking gives him a really long armor buff
If you use a Primal SP3 to get 10 armors and you can adapt and are willing to fight without using heavies his stack of 10 armors will get rid of all debuffs 80% faster....pretty much as good as Grimlock's purify.
This is why you block with primal. The exact same strategy applies with Magnus as well.
If MV1 gets caught by Ironhides SP2 and SP3 then he is gone. Even if his sig activates the burns will get straight through it. It merely tickles primal
Mv1 cant prevent kickbacks power leaks if hit. Primal can.
If MV1 gets caught by mixmaster sp2 and 3 by acid he is also gone
Bumblebee can still deal heaps of damage to MV1 because he crits like crazy. Primal can also tank these.
Stop being biased. MV1 is my favourite but even he has his cons. Everyone has a different playstyle so stop arguing with everyone
Take Prime, and wreck havoc with one of highest damage output after tantrum.
this is one of the threads where reading from OP's post onward is helpful than just jumping in with "you should improve your skills"
no one is particularly taking about getting hit..they're responding to a particular person being biased by repeating the same stance and ignoring the rest... there were a lot of responses in the thread but the Mods deleted the posts as they were getting a bit uncivil
This. Thhus really helps in the long run because even to begin with one Armor Buff, most sources of bleed are gone, but with 10 Armors it makes all DoT Debuffs non-existent.
Also, if you're able to gain another SP3 while having 10 Armor Buffs, you can heavy to gain 10 Melee Buffs, and when you launch you're SP3, all the Melee Buffs will stay intact for the SP3. Now that's a lot of Damage.
Technically, any bot can take any bot with ease, with the exception of bonecrusher. That’s just a matter of player skill. There’s no fear to be had from taking grimlock or primal against a shock block mod. Prime won’t help there. And yeah, practically invincible, against standard damage hits. The main point of prime, primal, grimlock and tantrum is to deal with dot, which as mentioned, will melt through primes armour if it’s not bleed.
Sorry, prime is good. But he’s not the best option.
I can’t disagree with this. primal is a close second for me, only because not using heavies throws me off a bit
But that's why Primal has the ability to gain Melee Buffs whenever he strikes a block. It's the perfect substitute from using a heavy because you can still benefit from it.
If you say those stuff about mv1 why did you vote for him? Also IF he were tagged he would not die if he had I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON activated although IH can counter him, he still would live.
Mv1 has the highest votes. Which means he is GOOD contrast to what you are saying. I GUARANTEE YOU, some of YOU ARE also biased. I would say 'chumps' but it is 'uncivil' also sparkshredder is right, don't get hit, you don't wanna get hit in this game. You cannot say an unduped Grimlock is better than mv1 at least
True, Grimlock doesn't really do much unduped unlike Mv1.
But I still say that Primal is better than both, duped or unduped. To me ranking up Primal or Mv1 is a win/win situation; you can't go wrong with either. I just prefer Primal more, due to the fact that he can adapt to more situations
Did you read what i said? I said that MV1 was my favourite. I voted him becuse he he fits my playstyle. Doesn’t mean there is nothing wrong with him. And no, he will not still live from Ironhides sp2 or 3 with his sig activated. Opponents can still crit with MV1’s shields. Primals they can’t. And that means that Debuffs can still be applied to MV1. So that means shocks, burns, bleeds can still go through him and kill him.
Like i said i like MV1 then mos brawlers becaue he has the higher damage then most brawlers and i find him more agile. But he isn’t good at raids as some people say he is. Harm accelerator still kills him. Grimlock or synergy primal best at raids
I have a duped 5* mv1 and primal, leaning towards MV1 since I have no other duped Beastwars bots.
Dew prime
Man that’s a good situation to be in.
I'd hate it - grass is always greener. I would rather just have my mind made up for me.
I think Primal if duped is the Brawler to go for though, Flavin. Stronger than MV1 for sure even without the BW synergy
I dunno... To me, you are one that's biased. Everyone here has acknowledge MV1's abilities yet you fail to acknowledged his downfalls..like totally ignoring comments about dealing with Shock and Burns. MV1 good to contrast what's I'm saying? I never joined in on this discussion on who is better because I know there's no actual discussion with you. Lastly, if we're going to put weight on Sparkshreeder generic useless response on not getting hit...then why even have this discussion? don't get hit...then any bot should do. I can't say an unduped Grimlock is better than MV1 but I can also not say a duped MV1 is better than a duped Grimlock or Primal. I already know how you going to respond to this so I'm moving on.
Lol.
Say that to the people who voted for mv1, which includes you
I use all six of them and never regretted it once.
Optimus Primal is awesome in my opinion, and when paired up with the other beasts, he’s all that much better!
I really like his gameplay, and his attacks are cool too.
His special 3 is pretty crazy, but hey, sometimes crazy works 😁
Ha, love that reference at the end
The issue wasn’t that anyone was saying mv1 is bad, in certain situations he is the best bot to use. I include myself in that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so don’t disrespect ours because it differs from yours. In my opinion grimlock is the best standalone brawler to use. Primal if you include synergies. Your opinion clearly, is mv1, we get it. The problem was that you just disagreed without countering why others were saying there are better all round options, and this thread went from a simple question to quite a heated debate on the matter to put it kindly.
The only situation mv1 is maybe the best all round option is against bonecrusher. Obviously because he heals from bleeds. But will he save you from shock block/melee? No. Will his sig save you from a lucky shock charged heavy from shockwave? Again, no. Grimlock and primal deal with these no bother. Both are just as capable of dealing with bonecrusher. Valid points which you ignored. You rebuked FACTS about non class advantage fights primal excelled in, so by any means, keep your opinion. But it’s not right to step on someone else’s toes because they think differently from you.
You like the bay bots, feel free to use them to your hearts content. Personally I don’t use them for that exact reason. It doesn’t make them bad bots to use. But your bias towards bay bots kinda clouded your judgement and reason there, and boy was it obvious.