It feels like this is more of a contest of who can put up the most points and TC is a secondary prize. True test of stamina and perseverance. It's too bad the final scores will be unknown as I'm curious how crazy people can grind. Keep it up!
Five seconds into seeing the milestones and I was 100% out. I was expecting Thundercracker chips.
Instead I dropped $2k on crystals and never got him! Whaddaya gonna do?!
For that price I could have paid a Merc and landed too 3!!!
Holy mother of god, you rolled 3-5 crystal with 2000 dollars? Or you meant energon
Dollars. No 5 Star Thundercracker.
You are the reason why loot boxes were created. You are the reason why loot boxes will never leave. You are the reason why loot boxes have terrible RNG. Thanks pal!
Without players like me, there is no game @MeatShield72 , so you’re welcome.
Gosh we need 10 thousand more like you, so Kabam would make combiners
It feels like this is more of a contest of who can put up the most points and TC is a secondary prize. True test of stamina and perseverance. It's too bad the final scores will be unknown as I'm curious how crazy people can grind. Keep it up!
Not only roster and stamina, but also stock of energon to cooldown.
The people grinding for this thing are insane. Cracker is a good bot but not worth that much time and effort. (And Energon)
SURE. Since a lot of people managed to buy a Megatronus (which is without doubt the top bot of the game) in a month without any Robotronus in base defense, and that without any competition between players.
U can’t compare between those two at all. Everyone can get megatronus if they have ONE good raid team and If u put enough time into it, you will get him.
this won’t help at all in arena because u need large collection power instead of just one good team, Without that you won’t even stand a chance against Asian players. Plus top 30 means you can grind as much as u want but the prize is not guaranteed
Basically, putting megatronus in arena won’t make any major differences except the players who already got him will probably not participate
Exactly
The difference between normal grinding ( before feature arena ) and arena featured bot grinding is that : One gives you definite rewards, while the other one is non definite, as simple as that
You can put how many points you want on that arena, you'll never be sure if you'll get to that top 30 or not
On the other hand, Tronus was available in the shop, for 1M chip, something that can actually be measured, calculated, something you can plan to get on, later, with the right amount of effort, time and energon.
And that's the major difference between the 2 way of getting those bot.
I just hope that they don't do this to the next released bots, actually i can say without doubt that I definitely prefer grinding the hell out of me on raid, for like 3-4 days, spend 3k energon, and be SURE that I'll get that bot.
Instead of trying hard ( more harder than raid actually ) during 3 straight day ( something that you can't split up during a whole week, again ) and spending who knows how many energon, to be not even sure that'll eventually get that bot.
The uncertainty is definitely the biggest thing here. I don't mind picking and choosing arenas that take a day and if I place outside the top 30, ok. But 3 days over a weekend and not even being certain has been horrible. I think all it serves to do for those who actually commit the time and effort (and money in some cases) and then end up outside the top 30, is demotivate them and put them off. That isn't good. I'm not a fan of this culture where everyone is a winner, but this doesn't have to be a competition really. A really high milestone or something, something hard and high to aim for would be much more appropriate I think. 3 days feels more like work and effort than competition, and I think hard work should be rewarded
The uncertainty is definitely the biggest thing here. I don't mind picking and choosing arenas that take a day and if I place outside the top 30, ok. But 3 days over a weekend and not even being certain has been horrible. I think all it serves to do for those who actually commit the time and effort (and money in some cases) and then end up outside the top 30, is demotivate them and put them off. That isn't good. I'm not a fan of this culture where everyone is a winner, but this doesn't have to be a competition really. A really high milestone or something, something hard and high to aim for would be much more appropriate I think. 3 days feels more like work and effort than competition, and I think hard work should be rewarded
Exactly
The difference between normal grinding ( before feature arena ) and arena featured bot grinding is that : One gives you definite rewards, while the other one is non definite, as simple as that
You can put how many points you want on that arena, you'll never be sure if you'll get to that top 30 or not
On the other hand, Tronus was available in the shop, for 1M chip, something that can actually be measured, calculated, something you can plan to get on, later, with the right amount of effort, time and energon.
And that's the major difference between the 2 way of getting those bot.
I just hope that they don't do this to the next released bots, actually i can say without doubt that I definitely prefer grinding the hell out of me on raid, for like 3-4 days, spend 3k energon, and be SURE that I'll get that bot.
Instead of trying hard ( more harder than raid actually ) during 3 straight day ( something that you can't split up during a whole week, again ) and spending who knows how many energon, to be not even sure that'll eventually get that bot.
I’d have to argue that.
It is very normal to output 4million points per day.
So you expect to output 12million + about 6million for safety.
So if you output 18million, I am 99% sure you will get it
Ok, but sadly, you didn't take in account on your math, the sheer amount of people, ready to spent 2-3k or even more energon to refresh their roster ?
They can put like probably 8M a day ( twice as much as your calculations ) so at least 26M ?
the 6M for safety you're talking about is probably the points, some rich/full of energon people are ready to get, in the first day of their arena, in addition to the normal grind.
Ok, but sadly, you didn't take in account on your math, the sheer amount of people, ready to spent 2-3k or even more energon to refresh their roster ?
They can put like probably 8M a day ( twice as much as your calculations ) so at least 26M ?
the 6M for safety you're talking about is probably the points, some rich/full of energon people are ready to get, in the first day of their arena, in addition to the normal grind.
I agree. Megatronus maybe. TC no, not worth
But if you ask people that tried this time, you can get some idea of points for future
Hey @DaveJL
Your estimate is quite good, although I did a bit less.
My profile says how many series I did.
All pure grind, except 9 series I bought for 765 cubes (8 5r4 to get 1m extra + 1 4r4 because they wouldn't refresh before the end and would still allow me to respect my goal to stay above 9000 cubes in case an interesting offer would pop up)
Knowing that, you will probably be interested, as I am, to understand how some people with waaaaaay less win streak can be present on the leaderboard, high above, or just below me...
Knowing that, you will probably be interested, as I am, to understand how some people with waaaaaay less win streak can be present on the leaderboard, high above, or just below me...
Cooldown a team of two r5 and one r4 for 250 times. Isn't that too hard?
I would say you got pretty damn lucky at rank 30.
And I did notice some people with less than 200 streaks made into top 30, some even made top 30 for both TC and Sig arenas.
The only way to do that is crazy amount of enegon spent on refreshes. If your streak reset it takes quite a few rounds to get back to where you were, and you can't use 3* fodders in this arena.
@KillMasterC I don't have r5 so I cannot do the math properly to estimate a theoretical max with this setup.
But considering a r5 in this setup would score max 50k and a r4 40k, a guy willing to spend (250-10 natural refresh) X 90 cubes would score 35m.
I'm fine with this.
But looking at some profiles, they neither have 2 r5 nor have done 250 series.
That's all I would say here, it's about to become against the TOS
I would say you got pretty damn lucky at rank 30.
And I did notice some people with less than 200 streaks made into top 30, some even made top 30 for both TC and Sig arenas.
The only way to do that is crazy amount of enegon spent on refreshes. If your streak reset it takes quite a few rounds to get back to where you were, and you can't use 3* fodders in this arena.
@KillMasterC I don't have r5 so I cannot do the math properly to estimate a theoretical max with this setup.
But considering a r5 in this setup would score max 50k and a r4 40k, a guy willing to spend (250-10 natural refresh) X 90 cubes would score 35m.
I'm fine with this.
But looking at some profiles, they neither have 2 r5 nor have done 250 series.
That's all I would say here, it's about to become against the TOS
Can be beneficial to break your streak to start over.
It matters if you don't want to spend enegon, if you spend of course it won't matter much. If you lose your streaks you need to take an extra 20 min to get back to 3.0 multiplier so you definitely don't want to lose it often. It also breaks your CD chain since you want to save your powerful bot around streak 10 so you don't have to face bots which are 3x your PI
One argument is you fight more powerful bots around streak 10 which can net you more points which is true, however you also running the risk by running into an hard team(2 BC for example, which sometimes u just can't win and are force to spend enegon to pass), again if people spend nothing is an issue.
Hey @DaveJL
Your estimate is quite good, although I did a bit less.
My profile says how many series I did.
All pure grind, except 9 series I bought for 765 cubes (8 5r4 to get 1m extra + 1 4r4 because they wouldn't refresh before the end and would still allow me to respect my goal to stay above 9000 cubes in case an interesting offer would pop up)
Knowing that, you will probably be interested, as I am, to understand how some people with waaaaaay less win streak can be present on the leaderboard, high above, or just below me...
Yes mate, I got 26th so had a fair idea lol.
As for streak, it depends on the number of r4 and r5 4*, number of 5* at r2, r3, r4 etc.
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there were players on 11m when I was at 7.5m... actually wild.
Gosh we need 10 thousand more like you, so Kabam would make combiners
Not only roster and stamina, but also stock of energon to cooldown.
SURE. Since a lot of people managed to buy a Megatronus (which is without doubt the top bot of the game) in a month without any Robotronus in base defense, and that without any competition between players.
this won’t help at all in arena because u need large collection power instead of just one good team, Without that you won’t even stand a chance against Asian players. Plus top 30 means you can grind as much as u want but the prize is not guaranteed
Basically, putting megatronus in arena won’t make any major differences except the players who already got him will probably not participate
The difference between normal grinding ( before feature arena ) and arena featured bot grinding is that : One gives you definite rewards, while the other one is non definite, as simple as that
You can put how many points you want on that arena, you'll never be sure if you'll get to that top 30 or not
On the other hand, Tronus was available in the shop, for 1M chip, something that can actually be measured, calculated, something you can plan to get on, later, with the right amount of effort, time and energon.
And that's the major difference between the 2 way of getting those bot.
I just hope that they don't do this to the next released bots, actually i can say without doubt that I definitely prefer grinding the hell out of me on raid, for like 3-4 days, spend 3k energon, and be SURE that I'll get that bot.
Instead of trying hard ( more harder than raid actually ) during 3 straight day ( something that you can't split up during a whole week, again ) and spending who knows how many energon, to be not even sure that'll eventually get that bot.
Absolutely I agree.
I’d have to argue that.
It is very normal to output 4million points per day.
So you expect to output 12million + about 6million for safety.
So if you output 18million, I am 99% sure you will get it
They can put like probably 8M a day ( twice as much as your calculations ) so at least 26M ?
the 6M for safety you're talking about is probably the points, some rich/full of energon people are ready to get, in the first day of their arena, in addition to the normal grind.
I agree. Megatronus maybe. TC no, not worth
But if you ask people that tried this time, you can get some idea of points for future
LMAO, guys spend your energons elsewhere, it’s bloody hell
After all, it is global top30
Imagine how rich you are if you rank Forbes top 30
Yep that’s how hard it is
Wait use your own judgement.
Maybe this post is to scare people like you away
Your estimate is quite good, although I did a bit less.
My profile says how many series I did.
All pure grind, except 9 series I bought for 765 cubes (8 5r4 to get 1m extra + 1 4r4 because they wouldn't refresh before the end and would still allow me to respect my goal to stay above 9000 cubes in case an interesting offer would pop up)
Knowing that, you will probably be interested, as I am, to understand how some people with waaaaaay less win streak can be present on the leaderboard, high above, or just below me...
Cooldown a team of two r5 and one r4 for 250 times. Isn't that too hard?
And I did notice some people with less than 200 streaks made into top 30, some even made top 30 for both TC and Sig arenas.
The only way to do that is crazy amount of enegon spent on refreshes. If your streak reset it takes quite a few rounds to get back to where you were, and you can't use 3* fodders in this arena.
But considering a r5 in this setup would score max 50k and a r4 40k, a guy willing to spend (250-10 natural refresh) X 90 cubes would score 35m.
I'm fine with this.
But looking at some profiles, they neither have 2 r5 nor have done 250 series.
That's all I would say here, it's about to become against the TOS
Streak does not matter that much.
And happy too, as it was the last time I will do such an effort.
I'll forge most of my 4* beginning of next month, so as not to be able to do this again!
Can be beneficial to break your streak to start over.
It matters if you don't want to spend enegon, if you spend of course it won't matter much. If you lose your streaks you need to take an extra 20 min to get back to 3.0 multiplier so you definitely don't want to lose it often. It also breaks your CD chain since you want to save your powerful bot around streak 10 so you don't have to face bots which are 3x your PI
One argument is you fight more powerful bots around streak 10 which can net you more points which is true, however you also running the risk by running into an hard team(2 BC for example, which sometimes u just can't win and are force to spend enegon to pass), again if people spend nothing is an issue.
Yes mate, I got 26th so had a fair idea lol.
As for streak, it depends on the number of r4 and r5 4*, number of 5* at r2, r3, r4 etc.
(You don't have the same pseudo as IG, so I couldn't know)