New Crystals after the "fix"

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  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
    Beastdad wrote: »
    BlackRazak wrote: »
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    Today

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    Yesterday

    Maybe you are rewarded now for being out of their dog house?

    Results are not the same for the rest of us.

    I'll bite.
    I was silenced for 3 months "by error", for constantly posting game, memory and cache bugs and was even banned in-game for a day or two (lord knows why) BUT i reckon this is just WHACK RNG.

    I've had teammates open 6 Dark Matrix Crystals and get 5*, 4* and 3* Nemesis Primes ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT.

    I've also had a run where i pulled 4x 4* Primal in a row, followed by 4x 5* Hotrod IN.A.ROW.

    I'm massively blowing energon and gold on missions, raids plus finally UPGRADING my 5*s at the moment...this may have a bearing on away missions offered. I dunno.
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
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    Both within the last 24hr.
    But i did get some turkeys, too


  • VoltronVoltron Posts: 843
    BlackRazak wrote: »
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    Both within the last 24hr.
    But i did get some turkeys, too


    I'm flagging you... you're just showing off now. :p
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
    Voltron wrote: »
    BlackRazak wrote: »
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    Both within the last 24hr.
    But i did get some turkeys, too


    I'm flagging you... you're just showing off now. :p

    But...but...i don't get 5* missions!
    And my 5* RNG is so atrocious, I've taken to leveling 5* Rhinox, KB and Arcee just to keep said loot from expiring.

    Now imagine this, @Voltron .
    Your 4* MAX Bots are being trounced.

    Your top AWAKENED 5* bots are Arcee, KB, Rhinox, Grindor, Hotrod.
    And you have to spend 4M to get them SOMEWHAT competitive.

    COZ THAT'S ALL I GOT BRO
  • VoltronVoltron Posts: 843
    edited August 2019
    BlackRazak wrote: »
    Voltron wrote: »
    BlackRazak wrote: »
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    Both within the last 24hr.
    But i did get some turkeys, too


    I'm flagging you... you're just showing off now. :p

    But...but...i don't get 5* missions!
    And my 5* RNG is so atrocious, I've taken to leveling 5* Rhinox, KB and Arcee just to keep said loot from expiring.

    Now imagine this, @Voltron .
    Your 4* MAX Bots are being trounced.

    Your top AWAKENED 5* bots are Arcee, KB, Rhinox, Grindor, Hotrod.
    And you have to spend 4M to get them SOMEWHAT competitive.

    COZ THAT'S ALL I GOT BRO

    lol. yeah 5* bot crystal pulls are trolling bad. I now longer spin single crystals because I was getting nothing but Hot Rod dupes. unfortunately, bot chip is the only way to guarantee a decent 5* roster. people who aren't keep up with the bot chip (and T3A) grind are getting left behind. It's starting to show in the ally I'm in.
  • GungnirGungnir Posts: 68
    Gungnir wrote: »
    I think everyone would be a bit more relaxed about these new crystals if we just knew the cut offs for t2/T3.
    I've currently only had t2 crystals, most of what comes out of them I sell, as I'm a player who needs T3 class sparks more than anything. T2 don't give those, so I'm desperate for some T3 ore crystals.
    I'm level 49,but I gather that level is irrelevant, it's your bots that count. But how exactly? What should I focus on to hit that threshold, it's annoying to not know.

    I just hit t3 crystals this weekend.

    Here were my top bots as of the first t3 offering:
    1. arcee - 4509
    2. bumblebee - 4090
    3. OG prime - 4089
    4. primal - 3683
    5. rhinox - 3615

    Top 3 is 12688 and top 5 is 19986

    Here is my top 5 when I was getting t2:
    1. arcee - 4509
    2. OG prime - 4089
    3. primal - 3683
    4. rhinox - 3615
    5. soundwave - 3595

    Top 3 is 12281 and top 5 is 19491

    The numbers aren’t as clean as I would have thought (was thinking 20k PI for top 5 would be the threshold). So I’m not confident of the exact cutoff or computation. However it does give a vague idea of what to shoot for.

    You legend, cheers for this. Time to do a bit of calculating myself and see where I stand.
  • GungnirGungnir Posts: 68
    So a bit of calculation. My top bots all 4*:
    Shockwave 4324
    Megatronus 3809
    Motormaster 3614
    Cyclonus 3578
    Arcee 3578

    So top 3 = 11747
    Top 5 = 18903

    Think I'll aim to get that top 3 to 12500, see if thats the threshold.
  • JIMMY_SABJIMMY_SAB Posts: 754
    Gungnir wrote: »
    So a bit of calculation. My top bots all 4*:
    Shockwave 4324
    Megatronus 3809
    Motormaster 3614
    Cyclonus 3578
    Arcee 3578

    So top 3 = 11747
    Top 5 = 18903

    Think I'll aim to get that top 3 to 12500, see if thats the threshold.

    The thing is, none of those PI ratings is accurate. I guarantee you if you submit a support ticket asking for your current ratings on those bots, they would all be a tad higher. This bot PI Rating Display issue has been around for over 2 years, so I hate to see you use resources unless you plan to anyways.
  • Could also be based on prestige and/or simply rank and level.
  • GungnirGungnir Posts: 68
    So I did a bunch of forging last night... And this morning got my first T3 ore crystals!!!!

    So top bots now are
    Shockwave 4340
    Megatrounus 4008
    Motormaster 3624
    Arcee 3589
    Cyclonus 3578

    So top 3 = 11972
    Top 5 = 19139

    I'd say that those numbers don't really make a lot of sense, but like Jimmy_sab said, the pi indicators have been iffy for a long time. So maybe on another day those top 3 will hit 12k, but that means my totals are off compared too TimTheEnchanter still.
  • PiconiaPiconia Posts: 106
    Saucekay1 wrote: »
    Well fail again kabam now where we were actually getting something for playing now the new crystals only have given ore seems the scale back of drops has gone to nothing what a waste of an update.

    Not really, these crystals are the best update since Jetfire was released. If you fail to notice that, then you haven't played this game for too long.
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
    Past couple days, the ratio of great pulls to cruddy ones have REALLY been lopsided to the negative side.
    Once in awhile you get
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    Versus the usual
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    As Mo Salah (well, his shirt) says
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  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
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  • JmdJmd Posts: 43
    I'm waiting until I get 1,000 to open 'em. My top five bots are over 25,000 and I'm Commander Level 60. XD

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  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
    edited August 2019
    Beastdad wrote: »
    Jmd wrote: »
    I'm waiting until I get 1,000 to open 'em. My top five bots are over 25,000 and I'm Commander Level 60. XD


    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

    Just a little heads up, I waited until I had over 300 the first time and opened them all, then waited until almost 500 the second time and didn't receive any Tier 4 pieces of any kind. (Just for comparison, my top 5 bots are 35k plus and I have several R4 5*'s)

    Blackrazak seems to have better luck opening them as he gets them.

    @Beastdad my best pulls are always either from 7 or 10 crystals.
    I did the 'massive' opening just the ONCE, and got multiple 800 class ore and 2 T3Bs, 1 T2A. Out of 83 Ore-13 crystals.
    Just got 2x T3Cs (Tact) as i pen this.

    Haven't gotten 5* shard missions in over a week.

    I also used to horde 4* crystals and PBCs. Again, better luck from small/singular openings.
  • BaRdYaAmNBaRdYaAmN Posts: 1,496
    Jmd wrote: »
    I'm waiting until I get 1,000 to open 'em. My top five bots are over 25,000 and I'm Commander Level 60. XD

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    I thought me saving up 250 that one time was impressive...
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  • Hijacker2531Hijacker2531 Posts: 528
    edited August 2019
    BlackRazak wrote: »
    Beastdad wrote: »
    Jmd wrote: »
    I'm waiting until I get 1,000 to open 'em. My top five bots are over 25,000 and I'm Commander Level 60. XD


    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

    Just a little heads up, I waited until I had over 300 the first time and opened them all, then waited until almost 500 the second time and didn't receive any Tier 4 pieces of any kind. (Just for comparison, my top 5 bots are 35k plus and I have several R4 5*'s)

    Blackrazak seems to have better luck opening them as he gets them.

    @Beastdad my best pulls are always either from 7 or 10 crystals.
    I did the 'massive' opening just the ONCE, and got multiple 800 class ore and 2 T3Bs, 1 T2A. Out of 83 Ore-13 crystals.
    Just got 2x T3Cs (Tact) as i pen this.

    Haven't gotten 5* shard missions in over a week.

    I also used to horde 4* crystals and PBCs. Again, better luck from small/singular openings.

    I don't really think your top bots matter once you've hit T3 ore crystals, and then you can get 5-star crystal shards at random. I just got 1,000 5 star shards and I only got T3 ore crystals like Wednesday or Tuesday. I have a reallllllllly low overall bot rating. It's around 72,000, and those in my alliance might notice that I have the second lowest overall bot rating among them. However, I just recently maxed out my 5th 4-star, so maybe that's the criteria. My top five is around 19,000, so yeah. And my top 3 is about 11800
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
    But @Hijacker2531 plays like his top 3 bots are 15K!
    Highly doubtful, but wouldn't it be nice if Ore-13 rewarded players on SKILL, participation level.
    After all, you've our fight statistics.

    And @Beastdad , here's today's haul
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  • Piconia wrote: »
    Saucekay1 wrote: »
    Well fail again kabam now where we were actually getting something for playing now the new crystals only have given ore seems the scale back of drops has gone to nothing what a waste of an update.

    Not really, these crystals are the best update since Jetfire was released. If you fail to notice that, then you haven't played this game for too long.

    Ive played since release you may have bumped your head. They took away items that were helpful and then replaced with a very slim chance to get other helpful items but come for some and none for others. How is that a great update? Put the pipe down...
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    Here are my top bots and i get ore, t3 basic and class a random t2 alpha here and there but still nothing t4 class or basic no t3 alpha. I am in a top 100 alliance but the game has me stuck right here. On another subjuct i have been getting far less shards from forging bots i forge up and improve so all the grinding and playing the game as should does really nothing. Bread crumbs..
  • MrnomisMrnomis Posts: 139
    I can't believe we're still discussing this.
  • RocsolidRocsolid Posts: 291
    Saucekay1 wrote: »
    Piconia wrote: »
    Saucekay1 wrote: »
    Well fail again kabam now where we were actually getting something for playing now the new crystals only have given ore seems the scale back of drops has gone to nothing what a waste of an update.

    Not really, these crystals are the best update since Jetfire was released. If you fail to notice that, then you haven't played this game for too long.

    Ive played since release you may have bumped your head. They took away items that were helpful and then replaced with a very slim chance to get other helpful items but come for some and none for others. How is that a great update? Put the pipe down...

    It is a great update. Unfortunately, I dont think I've seen anything released that you havent complained about.
  • RocsolidRocsolid Posts: 291
    I think what you get from missions and Crystal's is total pi based, I've noticed a definate increase in 5* shards, gold ore and what I get when opening the new Crystal's when I went back over 120k pi. Not to mention the player with the most success opening these has one of the largest total pi acounts.
  • Rocsolid wrote: »
    I think what you get from missions and Crystal's is total pi based, I've noticed a definate increase in 5* shards, gold ore and what I get when opening the new Crystal's when I went back over 120k pi. Not to mention the player with the most success opening these has one of the largest total pi acounts.

    The rate of getting crystals is definitely not based off of total PI. I've gotten 2 five star shard missions over the past three days. I never use Energon to refresh either.
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,595
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    Level 47, 70 bots, 2200 medals (avg), 32.6k base, 142K pi
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