It seems to me that opening in groups of 10 or so increases your chances of getting something good with certain crystals. Case in point... Arena Crystals. I learned a LONG time ago that opening these singularly rarely gets me Energon. But almost always, when I open in groups of 10, I get anywhere from 8-40 Energon.
I don't know how or why it works as it does, but it does, at least for now. For some crystals, opening in stacks increases your chances of getting good stuff. For others, like the so-called Premium Bot Crystals, it doesn't do anything.
There IS a way that pulling items from crystals is weighted towards the lower end or tier items. I have seen this again and again. I often see the behavior I described - the spin doesn't stay the same speed and act the same way at all times. It can slow down, stop suddenly, or drift over more than usual.
And certain crystals, like the Premium Bot Crystals, always tend to give low 2* and 3* bots. In fact I can say with some confidence that ANY crystal that offers a range of bots from 2* up will tend towards giving 2*, and like the Premium Bot Crystals, your odds of getting something good does not increase with opening them in stacks.
Not sure if allowing crystals to spin or timing your click right when it turns yellow or any other trick works better or worse. No consistent data on that yet.
At the end of the day it's randomly generated and gambling.
There is no trick. Just luck. Don't be naive enough to believe otherwise. Ask all the people living on the streets if their 'tricks' helped them in the casino.
At the end of the day it's randomly generated and gambling.
There is no trick. Just luck. Don't be naive enough to believe otherwise. Ask all the people living on the streets if their 'tricks' helped them in the casino.
Have to agree with you, @iBK .
Some have gotten mondo rewards, despite popping just a few Halloween Crystals.
I usually get utter trash from Knight Crystals, Goldwheels or even typical 4* and 5* crystal RNG.
I came in with the "Oh, a surefire decent bot crystal for 3 fights? Awesome!" attitude for this event.
It doesnt matter if you open 1 or 10 or 100 at once. The difference is your perception that opening more than 1 made a difference but in reality each crystal is its own event and has no bearing on the other 9.
You are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong.
And to the other poster with similar thinking... There are legitimate gambling tricks, like card counting, that help folks win. They may not get away with that very long, but it is still one way to guarantee a winning hand.
I have opened singular Arena Crystals and always got gold. I could even test by opening 10, one at a time, and comparing those results to what I get when I open a stack, if I could be bothered. I already know the results would be different, consistently, every time. Anyone else that likes could test this. You will always get more gold than Energon opening Arena Crystals 1 at a time, for 10 in a row, compared to if you opened 10 Arena Crystals at a time.
It doesnt matter if you open 1 or 10 or 100 at once. The difference is your perception that opening more than 1 made a difference but in reality each crystal is its own event and has no bearing on the other 9.
You are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong.
And to the other poster with similar thinking... There are legitimate gambling tricks, like card counting, that help folks win. They may not get away with that very long, but it is still one way to guarantee a winning hand.
I have opened singular Arena Crystals and always got gold. I could even test by opening 10, one at a time, and comparing those results to what I get when I open a stack, if I could be bothered. I already know the results would be different, consistently, every time. Anyone else that likes could test this. You will always get more gold than Energon opening Arena Crystals 1 at a time, for 10 in a row, compared to if you opened 10 Arena Crystals at a time.
Other crystals work in a similar fashion.
No. We are actually correct because both miike and vydious have stated this exact thing....
It doesnt matter if you open 1 or 10 or 100 at once. The difference is your perception that opening more than 1 made a difference but in reality each crystal is its own event and has no bearing on the other 9.
You are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong.
And to the other poster with similar thinking... There are legitimate gambling tricks, like card counting, that help folks win. They may not get away with that very long, but it is still one way to guarantee a winning hand.
I have opened singular Arena Crystals and always got gold. I could even test by opening 10, one at a time, and comparing those results to what I get when I open a stack, if I could be bothered. I already know the results would be different, consistently, every time. Anyone else that likes could test this. You will always get more gold than Energon opening Arena Crystals 1 at a time, for 10 in a row, compared to if you opened 10 Arena Crystals at a time.
Other crystals work in a similar fashion.
You use card counting as an example which doesn't help you because card counting is based off of mathematical probability. What you're talking about here with these crystals is blind luck and bias due to what you've encountered. For example, let's imagine that no crystal odds were shown. I am a new player and open 5 of the 3-5* crystals and pull 2 5*, 1 4* and 2 3*. I would not believe that 5*s are very rare and that the odds must be good even though in reality they're not.
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Ok i am done
At the end of the day it's randomly generated and gambling.
There is no trick. Just luck. Don't be naive enough to believe otherwise. Ask all the people living on the streets if their 'tricks' helped them in the casino.
Have to agree with you, @iBK .
Some have gotten mondo rewards, despite popping just a few Halloween Crystals.
I usually get utter trash from Knight Crystals, Goldwheels or even typical 4* and 5* crystal RNG.
I came in with the "Oh, a surefire decent bot crystal for 3 fights? Awesome!" attitude for this event.
Forget Nemesis, I also got @Gunz0 's legendary pull.
You are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong.
And to the other poster with similar thinking... There are legitimate gambling tricks, like card counting, that help folks win. They may not get away with that very long, but it is still one way to guarantee a winning hand.
I have opened singular Arena Crystals and always got gold. I could even test by opening 10, one at a time, and comparing those results to what I get when I open a stack, if I could be bothered. I already know the results would be different, consistently, every time. Anyone else that likes could test this. You will always get more gold than Energon opening Arena Crystals 1 at a time, for 10 in a row, compared to if you opened 10 Arena Crystals at a time.
Other crystals work in a similar fashion.
Ouch
At least you got 4*s, my pull was all Shitty 3*s. Never mind I already have 5*Nemesis lol.
Hard luck buddy
No. We are actually correct because both miike and vydious have stated this exact thing....
You use card counting as an example which doesn't help you because card counting is based off of mathematical probability. What you're talking about here with these crystals is blind luck and bias due to what you've encountered. For example, let's imagine that no crystal odds were shown. I am a new player and open 5 of the 3-5* crystals and pull 2 5*, 1 4* and 2 3*. I would not believe that 5*s are very rare and that the odds must be good even though in reality they're not.