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Trading bots ?
Ghost22
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There are so many bots in forged to fight that I want but can never get like mixmaster so I think it would be a good idea if we were able to trade bots so we can get the bots we all want
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Galaxy of Heroes tried to do something similar by trading Character Shards with another Character Shards once you have maxed out said character and IMO it was a terrible method which was only beneficial for P2P/P2W players.
Of course they wouldn't have it. I just stated that GoH method to "trade" characters was awfully planned.
Calm down Amano. It could possibly work even with a crystal and arena grind system, although it depends on how it's implemented. Never say never
MustangJon gave the #1 reason why.
IT'D BE ABUSED BY SCAMMERS AND HACKERS!!!
All it does is allow the biggest spenders to get even further ahead of f2p because they will
A: build alt accounts to trade with themselves or only trade amongst other big spenders
B: Trade their numerous duplicates to the "trade-in store" if trading is only allowed via the game, and not player to player.
Either way, it completely destabilizes the game economy and it will drive players away, not attract them.
There is NO good way to implement trading. To prove it, I challenge anyone to come up with a bulletproof system of trading.
I 100% guarantee I will find a way to break it.
All trades can happen if they meet ALL 4 requirements.
A ) Trades allowed between Alliance Members Only.
B ) Trades will charge a certain amount of crystals.
C ) Trades will meet a Power Ranking requirement equivalent. (3* for 3* or 2*-maxed for new 3*, etc.)
D ) Trades will take 48 hrs to go into effect as they are being reviewed by a server Admin (Warm body that works for Kabam).
There. Bulletproof.
Even if you make the requirements A through C only, it would still be around 90% effective at hindering boosters.
Nope.
Build alt accounts. Enough to populate almost a whole alliance.
When an alt pulls a great bot, invite yourself to alliance. Trade bot with yourself, go back to your own alliance.
There will be too many game wide transactions to review every single one, that's literally not gonna happen. Nor would they pay someone to do it when trading lowers revenue and now you want them to pay salary to a pylon? Not a chance.
Broken.
And if you think players won't do this, you are sorely mistaken.
Part B costs you to do that. A booster that does this is PAYING for it.
Also
Part C makes the booster invest valuable time and effort. If they're trading even powered bots with themselves, who cares. It's "EVEN".
and
Part D prevents the system being abused. Kabam wouldn't have to police 100% of the accounts, just the ones that deal with 3*'s and above. Told you, bulletproof.
You are dreaming.
Whales don't care about spending energon or crystals. They always have more than f2p and as a result can exploit any type of trading system to their advantage, and do it happily to fill the bots they are missing or want more dupes of at a fraction of the cost compared to buying in store.
Part C means absolutely nothing. If everyone in my alliance made a single alt account and an alt alliance, we could just trade amongst each other with double opportunity.
Part D is also useless. Just make trades between alliance missions during dead time. Use a VPN to mask your IP so no one can see the trades are happening from the same player(s)
Your idea isn't even close to bulletproof, it's full of bullet holes... And it still doesn't address the underlying factor that is the biggest problem; spenders get a quantum leap in advantage in any trading system, no matter how you slice it. They simply have more resources to exchange, and become gods faster than you can blink.
Trading sucks. The end.
The end, I don't want to be flagged
And you are creating imaginary strawmen to validate your concerns.
IF I could become a "WHALE" (wtf that is) not caring about energon or spending crystals, then I'd do it. In fact everyone would. BUT not everyone can. If paying to play increases someone's ability to obtain crystals (which the current system supports) then what's the problem? THEIR collection of high star bots does NOT effect YOUR gameplay.
Part C has a caveat you're failing to grasp. Another account means spending DOUBLE the time invested JUST to trade with yourself. Plus the BULLETPROOF contingency that the bots MUST BE EQUAL. How do you keep missing that?
Part D has a strawman where you assumed there would be "dead times". Good try. Never mentioned it. Plus you threw the added strawman that Kabam can ONLY ID an account via IP and no other means. Give Kabam some credit.
All of your bullets are ricocheting. I was promised 100% penetration and this isn't even making me break a sweat.
Trading can happen done MY way. The beginning.
Except they never considered it because flat out, it creates a system of abuse that is orders of magnitudes to large to combat. Any system created to do this would be such a hassle to manage that it would any sort of benefits of having trades seem minuscule. Trading bots is ludicrous as is your "bulletproof system."