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Rebalance Bonecrusher please

MxSrTMxSrT Posts: 2
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I have a R5 Level50 5* Bonecrusher, his damage is very low compared to other Rank5 5* bots. Bonecrusher is lacking melee damage, heavy damage and special damage.Usually in special 2 he can't even do 6k damage. He does 1k or 2k heavy damage without crit, 3k heavy damage with crit.
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  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 3,105
    edited August 2020
    He is designed in a way that if you want more damage, you take hits first :D
  • Bumblebee_StingsBumblebee_Stings Posts: 113
    @MxSrT Im not 100% sure on this, but I think Bonecrusher does more damage when the opponent has more bleeds... ie you have to get lucky with the bleed RNG... but you need him to be awakened first...he also reduces the oppnents power gain by 25%(I think) per bleed stack. So you pretty much want him at a high sig
  • Bntyhntr3232_Bntyhntr3232_ Posts: 3,088
    But why the hell would you rank BC to R5, in the first place?
  • MegaStrikersMegaStrikers Posts: 264
    edited August 2020
    Bntyhntr3232_ wrote: »
    But why the hell would you rank BC to R5, in the first place?
    Maybe he just likes bc in general.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 629
    Or he already had drift and necrotronus and skorp at r5 lol.
  • BlackRazakBlackRazak Posts: 2,812
    Bntyhntr3232_ wrote: »
    But why the hell would you rank BC to R5, in the first place?

    My alliance, AM, Master Mission, RoK, Raid results thoroughly disagree with your statement.

    He's anti-Nanojack, anti-EMI, anti-Energon Shield, anti-Ranged Reflect, anti-Power Gain, anti-Evade.

    99% of community bases rated 80-100K can also attest to this.

    😋
  • Bntyhntr3232_Bntyhntr3232_ Posts: 3,088
    BlackRazak wrote: »
    Bntyhntr3232_ wrote: »
    But why the hell would you rank BC to R5, in the first place?

    My alliance, AM, Master Mission, RoK, Raid results thoroughly disagree with your statement.

    He's anti-Nanojack, anti-EMI, anti-Energon Shield, anti-Ranged Reflect, anti-Power Gain, anti-Evade.

    99% of community bases rated 80-100K can also attest to this.

    😋

    That's not even the point. Sure, he's good for raids, but for all of those situations, there's always someone better at it, so my statement stands.
  • DrShotgunDrShotgun Posts: 2,157
    Bonecrusher is fine as is. The amount of bleeds he can stack, both hitting and BEING hit is where his brutality lies. There are only a couple of real counters to him, and they're brawlers.
    Bonecrusher has heavy armor and is one of the only core cast members that can still be used against the newest "meta" bots and still hang.
  • MxSrTMxSrT Posts: 2
    You guys are denying my advice about Bonecrusher needing a buff, and asking me why would I r5 Bonecrusher in the first place, what is wrong with you people?
  • Bntyhntr3232_Bntyhntr3232_ Posts: 3,088
    edited September 2020
    MxSrT wrote: »
    You guys are denying my advice about Bonecrusher needing a buff, and asking me why would I r5 Bonecrusher in the first place, what is wrong with you people?

    Different people are saying different things. But I'll make my question more simple—why would you even R5 Bonecrusher, if you actually have to ask for a rebalance? Surely, if he needs a rebalance, he isn't a good candidate for R5. Would you explain this, please?
  • Legen10Legen10 Posts: 98
    Bntyhntr3232_ wrote: »
    MxSrT wrote: »
    You guys are denying my advice about Bonecrusher needing a buff, and asking me why would I r5 Bonecrusher in the first place, what is wrong with you people?

    Different people are saying different things. But I'll make my question more simple—why would you even R5 Bonecrusher, if you actually have to ask for a rebalance? Surely, if he needs a rebalance, he isn't a good candidate for R5. Would you explain this, please?

    Maybe he just love BC or he upgraded him for rating, but i agree he needs at least update.
  • KillMasterCKillMasterC Posts: 3,105
    Bntyhntr3232_ wrote: »
    MxSrT wrote: »
    You guys are denying my advice about Bonecrusher needing a buff, and asking me why would I r5 Bonecrusher in the first place, what is wrong with you people?

    Different people are saying different things. But I'll make my question more simple—why would you even R5 Bonecrusher, if you actually have to ask for a rebalance? Surely, if he needs a rebalance, he isn't a good candidate for R5. Would you explain this, please?

    You need to R5 him first, and you start to believe how badly he needs rebalance.
  • ReworkRework Posts: 122
    I've always liked BC and think he should get some kind of small improvement to make him a more viable bot.
    I would suggest 2 small changes:
    1) Improve his offensive inflict bleed ability - Either move heavy hits from 70% to 90 or 100%, or add a 10% chance on regular hits.
    2) Improve his synergies. He has very few incoming synergies. He has a lot of outgoing ones that are not returned for some reason. I've always wondered if that was unintended.
  • NorthernLightRCNorthernLightRC Posts: 118
    Rework wrote: »
    I've always liked BC and think he should get some kind of small improvement to make him a more viable bot.
    I would suggest 2 small changes:
    1) Improve his offensive inflict bleed ability - Either move heavy hits from 70% to 90 or 100%, or add a 10% chance on regular hits.
    2) Improve his synergies. He has very few incoming synergies. He has a lot of outgoing ones that are not returned for some reason. I've always wondered if that was unintended.

    Agree with both of these 100%. BC was my first 4* (way before 5*s were a thing) so I wanted to use him but he didn't have any synergies with any other bots I wanted to use, so he soon fell by the wayside when I got other 4* bots.

    Other potential tweaks could be :
    3) Extend the length of time his bleeds last, even if the total bleed damage stays the same (less damage per second) to allow him to stack more.
    4) And/or allow him to refresh the bleeds already inflicted.
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