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Bracket merger w/o expanding rewards range = FAIL
GrimmFolly
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As the title says, merging the brackets and still offering the same paltry rewards is a failure of epic proportions. Seriously. What genius thought that was fair and reasonable to your new player base? Your stingyness has no limits.
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If you're comparing to MCOC's current reward system don't, that game is over 2 years old, things become laxer and laxer as time goes on because the amount of content to acquire is staggering to a new player so they make it easier(to an extent).
We didn't add the Beta players in with the regular players until we felt that our new players were given the chance to catch up. We had carefully controlled the progress of our Beta Players, so we were confident that this was the correct time to add them to the pool.
As a rather well-connected player to the community (i.e. I read the forums, Reddit, YouTube, Discord, and LINE community sentiment daily), I think it's important for the folks over at Kabam to know that there is a bit of a disconnect in terms of perceived "readiness". Many of the beta folks also agreed (even though they're the beneficiaries of the early merger) that it was unfortunate that non-beta folks did not have adequate time to catch up and this early merger put them at a disadvantage.
What is done is done, but forums are intended to be a place to stimulate feedback; the good, bad, and indifferent. I know I certainly can't speak for everyone's opinion, but the majority stance (including many top players - both beta and non-beta) felt it was premature. Take that for what it's worth.
Thanks for your continued updates to the game, actively responding to forum posts, and listening to the community sentiment. Although we may not agree one everything, we appreciate what you do!
You guys are constantly saying that the Beta players are not that big of an effect. All you have to do is say how many Beta vs Non-Beta players received the featured bot. Easy peazy.
That's a violation of privacy. We are not going to discuss anybody's account with anybody else. If players themselves would like to do this, they can, but we will not.
And demanding anything for appeasement is not going to work. We will not abide childish and immature demands.
When did you get so dismissive of real complaints? I've always tried to take your side on the MCOC forums.. even when you said that 30 minute timers were bad for players.. i defended you to my alliance translating your terribly communicated point into one that made some sense.
I've spent 200 dollars in this game.. wasn't a beta player... and and still significantly behind them with no real prospects of catching up. This isn't a childish complaint.
The complaint is not, although I do believe a little premature. Asking that we reveal the numbers of how many players were Beta and Not in the new arena is. Blaming Beta Players for not being able to achieve something is not fair to anybody. It is completely possible for somebody that started at the Global Launch to catch up and win in the Arenas right now, and has already happened multiple times.
Of course "anything is possible" If a non beta player wants to spend units and grind endlessly of course they can win a top prize. This doesnt negate the fact that they are most likely starting at a disadvantage.
To win a top prize (only 5 available? lol) you are grinding endlessly and spending. Do you think the person who has a 4/40 has an advantage on their grind? Is the person with a 4/40 more likely to be a beta player?
2 non beta players finished first and second in the last 4* arena
What you mean 2 non beta players... YES 2 NON BETA PLAYERS GOT THE FEATURED BOT. NON BETA
How is it a violation of anyone's privacy to say 20 Beta people got the featured and 30 non-beta did?
200 dollars is not as much as some players who spent in beta. It's common sense you need to spend more than them to catch up if you joined the game late. You can have a chat with those 2 Chinese post beta players who ranked 1st and 2nd in 4* arena (waspinator) to have an idea how much they spent to catch up.
He has been dismissive of every complaint and issue brought up about this game's suspect development process. It's put me off of spending a single cent more on this game to say the least.
Hold up a second there dawg. Read what you just read for a moment.
"It's common sense you need to spend more than them to catch up"
In what world is this common sense? What kind of game should be designed around trying to force players to constantly shell out obscene amounts of money or otherwise locking them into some kind of zero progress purgatory? How broken does the player base have to be to not see anything wrong with that.
This game not only hides the full contents of its rolls, it also hides it rates which is suspicious as all get-out. The devs have already admitted to intentionally planning a desert of content for half a year so the only people capable of getting anything new are the whales, especially with the recent and announced permanent removal of the low level arena.
I just don't get how anyone can defend that when games like Fire Emblem Heroes have been steadily updating since their release, are openly transparent about not only the contents of their gacha but their rates as well and have updated major gameplay and quality of life features in the two months since its release as well as a constant stream of new characters. There's even an amazing banner right now with higher rates than ever and I am going to spend money on it out of spite for this game's poor design choices.
I still don't even have 3* IH. Maybe I'll quit as well!
Don't forget Barricade and Bonecrusher.
Hold up a second there dawg. Read what you just read for a moment.
"It's common sense you need to spend more than them to catch up"
In what world is this common sense? What kind of game should be designed around trying to force players to constantly shell out obscene amounts of money or otherwise locking them into some kind of zero progress purgatory? How broken does the player base have to be to not see anything wrong with that.
This game not only hides the full contents of its rolls, it also hides it rates which is suspicious as all get-out. The devs have already admitted to intentionally planning a desert of content for half a year so the only people capable of getting anything new are the whales, especially with the recent and announced permanent removal of the low level arena.
I just don't get how anyone can defend that when games like Fire Emblem Heroes have been steadily updating since their release, are openly transparent about not only the contents of their gacha but their rates as well and have updated major gameplay and quality of life features in the two months since its release as well as a constant stream of new characters. There's even an amazing banner right now with higher rates than ever and I am going to spend money on it out of spite for this game's poor design choices.[/quote]
Forgive me stirring your already boiling pot, but a few points I notice about your comments as well.
In what world is that not common sense? Maybe how you read the post is the issue, not the post itself.
I read it as, If beta players chose to spend X amount of money, you; based on chance of course, should need roughly the same amount of money spent to accomplish same goals.
Playtime factors in here as well, so in essence, starting later than a beta player would cause a person to need to spend "more" to catch up, again based on chance of what you happen to pull.
Which brings me to my next point, why compare two different companies policies on how they choose to relay their intellectual property? If fire emblem's company chooses to make their information translucent, that is their choice as a company, this is just Kabam's chosen policy.
Neither are wrong, one is just more your taste.
Now why I really came here; and this is an honest statement, I spend large amounts of money on games, and I agree, I think 200 dollars is a large investment into a mobile game, but that is my choice, as it is yours.
The question I have for anyone that cares, is do your really think this entitles you to some extra stake in the company, or your gaming needs?
They (any game company) have put it out there easy to see; you spend 20 bucks, you get this digital item, it gives random reward, you get pissed that its not what you want, so you spend more.
I cannot for one see the problem in this business logic, definitely see the problem in the thought process of the buyer however. Myself included.
tl:dr....Sorry...my bad? Feel this strayed off original topic anyway.