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Starscream!

Enough is enough! He is one of the strongest Decepticons in Cybertronian history and a graduate of the Cybertron War Academy, Starscream is a treacherous high-ranking Decepticon. He is one of the few who possesses a "mutant" immortal spark. Even when his body is destroyed, his spark is not extinguished.

Please return STARSCREAM to glory!
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  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 1,779
    Nice wikipedia copy and paste dude
  • DaveJL wrote: »
    Nice wikipedia copy and paste dude
    Had to because kabam can’t seem to get him right!
  • BumblebeeBumblebee Posts: 581
    On a serious note, I agree. But they’re a lot of other characters that deserve a QOL more than Starscream.

    If Kabam can revamp his move set animations to look less aggressive and more slyful, then that would be great.

    Also, a nice addition would to maybe have his spark eject from his chest every time the player defeats Starscream in battle would be so cool, definitely adding emphasis/differentiation (given his immortality).
  • Bumblebee wrote: »
    On a serious note, I agree. But they’re a lot of other characters that deserve a QOL more than Starscream.

    If Kabam can revamp his move set animations to look less aggressive and more slyful, then that would be great.

    Also, a nice addition would to maybe have his spark eject from his chest every time the player defeats Starscream in battle would be so cool, definitely adding emphasis/differentiation (given his immortality).
    That would be a pretty cool feature. Or maybe something low wasp where his spark ejects then comes back
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 1,779
    What do you think isn't up to scratch with Starscream, out of curiosity? I agree that he seems to lack something, but I'm not sure what. I love him already, use him all the time. Maybe his melee damage seems a bit on the low side and his ranged damage doesn't seem to make up for it?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 629
    Maybe he could run away from battle with a low chance.
  • VavatronVavatron Posts: 843
    I always saw Starscream as Megatron’s... well you know... whipping boy.
  • BumblebeeBumblebee Posts: 581
    PhatBoy123 wrote: »
    Vavatron wrote: »
    I always saw Starscream as Megatron’s... well you know... whipping boy.

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  • PhatBoy123PhatBoy123 Posts: 1,015
    Bumblebee wrote: »
    PhatBoy123 wrote: »
    Vavatron wrote: »
    I always saw Starscream as Megatron’s... well you know... whipping boy.

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  • VavatronVavatron Posts: 843
    edited July 2018
    I know someone else who walked into a door...

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  • bummblezee3bummblezee3 Posts: 251
    this discussion is getting weird
  • bummblezee3bummblezee3 Posts: 251
    but yes megatron hates starscream dun dun da
  • DrShotgunDrShotgun Posts: 2,157
    What does Megatron tell Starscream when he has 2 black eyes??
    Nothing, he's already told him twice...
    Dun dun DUNNNNN
  • Hey there!

    I want to touch a little bit on translating Characters from Books/Movies/Comics/TV, to something like a Video Game like ours. While we still want to heavily base our Bots abilities and existence on the original source material, we have one important thing to keep in mind that other platforms don't have to... Balance!

    All of our Bots needs to be able to Balance against each other. All will have their uses, and all will have their weaknesses. It's not really possible for us to perfectly translate those Characters from one medium to another. Remember when Megatron ripped Jazz in half with ease in the 2007 film? We can't have a Bot doing that in our game! Or when Galvatron took one shot at Starscream in the 1986 film and turned him to a smoking pile of scrap? That's not within the realm of game balance either.

    Also, I personally think that our Starscream serves a very important role in combat when duped. Nullification. That is a very powerful ability that not many Bots can claim, and really should not be underestimated!
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 1,779
    he can kill Optimus Primal really good though.
  • Jay32Jay32 Posts: 169
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 1,779
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    no no, he isn't the worst, he is better than unduped Grimlock. When he is duped, he can actually wreck a lot of bots and he does have some pretty sweet synergy (not talking about 5*).

    He just lacks something small
  • SparkShredderSparkShredder Posts: 1,300
    @Kabam Miike I think StarScream don't need ability balances,, he just need some changes in animation,,, like how he punches OR kicks OR fires.
    Instead of Going, you can say, one on one like mv1 ,,his moves should be somewhat like OG Bee Jazz etc.... Like he's hiding a bit to save himself while attacking and goes for legs instead of Face.
  • Darm0kDarm0k Posts: 2,485
    Or when Galvatron took one shot at Starscream in the 1986 film and turned him to a smoking pile of scrap? That's not within the realm of game balance either.

    There is reference to that in Galvatron’s special 3 description.
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    Yes, I wish his leadership synergy was better. Wishful thinking would make it null ray for lower ranked bots....
  • DaveJL wrote: »
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    no no, he isn't the worst, he is better than unduped Grimlock. When he is duped, he can actually wreck a lot of bots and he does have some pretty sweet synergy (not talking about 5*).

    He just lacks something small
    He sucks! I know because I’ve got him and use him quite frequently.
  • ManthroManthro Posts: 2,752
    edited July 2018
    DaveJL wrote: »
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    no no, he isn't the worst, he is better than unduped Grimlock. When he is duped, he can actually wreck a lot of bots and he does have some pretty sweet synergy (not talking about 5*).

    He just lacks something small
    He sucks! I know because I’ve got him and use him quite frequently.

    If you think he sucks, you're not doing it right.

    He does need a small buff, I've detailed some ideas in another thread.

    He's a specialist. He can nullify so many irritating buffs in special content, and mop the floor with tantrum in spotlight.

    If you have trouble landing ranged, you need to change up your pattern.

    I find it incredibly easy to land ranged attacks, personally.
  • WarCatWarCat Posts: 171
    He is severally lacking in melee... that’s all that’s really wrong with him
  • BeejimanBeejiman Posts: 10

    Also, I personally think that our Starscream serves a very important role in combat when duped. Nullification. That is a very powerful ability that not many Bots can claim, and really should not be underestimated!

    Yeah, but if you're choosing between tac bots and nullify is important you'd take Ultra Magnus every day of the week. He does everything starscream can do plus he has armour break and better melee abilities. That's not balanced.

    Out of the existing abilities in the game, backfire makes sense for SS (he causes you to harm yourself), confusion makes sense (he's a manipulator), and revive makes sense (he had an immortal spark). Plus he should just hit harder. Any of these things would make him more balanced.
  • DaveJLDaveJL Posts: 1,779
    DaveJL wrote: »
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    no no, he isn't the worst, he is better than unduped Grimlock. When he is duped, he can actually wreck a lot of bots and he does have some pretty sweet synergy (not talking about 5*).

    He just lacks something small
    He sucks! I know because I’ve got him and use him quite frequently.

    And I know, because I have him at 5/50 and use him for raids, spotlight, AM and used him for RoK...
  • Darm0kDarm0k Posts: 2,485
    Manthro wrote: »
    He's a specialist. He can nullify so many irritating buffs in special content, and mop the floor with tantrum in spotlight.

    I haven’t tried him yet in spotlight. Does the nullify shock damage do more than the repair from the energon shield? Or can it also nullify the energon shield (with an awakened Starscream)? That’d be something crazy if it does....
    Beejiman wrote: »
    Yeah, but if you're choosing between tac bots and nullify is important you'd take Ultra Magnus every day of the week. He does everything starscream can do plus he has armour break and better melee abilities. That's not balanced.

    Starscream’s null ray will also nullify armor which will also inflict instant shock damage. His S2 has armor break as well. He can nullify unstoppable when his sig procs. His nullify with the S3 hits a bunch too. Launch it when the AI has a bunch of buffs (like say a stack of Primal crit armor) and you can see the health drop.

    Agree on the weak melee for Starscream. He hits like a coward. Hmmm.....
  • Gunz0Gunz0 Posts: 2,949
    edited July 2018
    He needs a buff to his SP2, it's really bad, the armor break proc chance is surprisingly low. Maybe a guaranteed armor break on his SP2 or a stun could work, some kind of movement control would make Starscream's null-rays easier to land
  • DaveJL wrote: »
    DaveJL wrote: »
    Jay32 wrote: »
    Hands down the worse bot in the game. He needs a total makeover starting with that nasty 5* synergy. Add some burn to his sp1 & make his sp2 100% armor break. I recall his sp3 use to nulify all buffs but know it's only 5.

    no no, he isn't the worst, he is better than unduped Grimlock. When he is duped, he can actually wreck a lot of bots and he does have some pretty sweet synergy (not talking about 5*).

    He just lacks something small
    He sucks! I know because I’ve got him and use him quite frequently.

    And I know, because I have him at 5/50 and use him for raids, spotlight, AM and used him for RoK...

    Who do you put in your team with starscream. Megatron? Shockwave?

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