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Which bot’s special is most diffult to bait/dodge?
小龙女
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Let’s ignore unstoppable buff
Impossible
(I believe it is impossible)
Prowl special 2
Wasp 1
Shockwave 2 part 2
Difficult
(You can’t dodge 100% all the time even on your toe, correct me if I am wrong, for example, Grimlock 2 need you to have distance, but sometimes you are cornered)
Megatronus
Blaster 2
Mirage 2
Grimlock 2
Medium
(Have to be on your toe)
Galvatron 1
ironhide
Primal 1
Scorponux
More difficult than easy
Ultramagnus
The rest should mostly be easy.
Impossible
(I believe it is impossible)
Prowl special 2
Wasp 1
Shockwave 2 part 2
Difficult
(You can’t dodge 100% all the time even on your toe, correct me if I am wrong, for example, Grimlock 2 need you to have distance, but sometimes you are cornered)
Megatronus
Blaster 2
Mirage 2
Grimlock 2
Medium
(Have to be on your toe)
Galvatron 1
ironhide
Primal 1
Scorponux
More difficult than easy
Ultramagnus
The rest should mostly be easy.
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Lol I assume you are always consecutive 100+ win on arena then.
Btw, I am pretty sure you beat Revenge Of The King with 0 energon expenditure. Since I believe there is no shockwave there.
Prowl S2 is the only one that is difficult, and even that one is avoidable.
None of the others are even in the same category.
Ironically, the only 2 special attacks that are next to impossible to avoid if you are cornered aren't even on this list.
KB S2
Bludgeon S1
The only way to avoid these if you are in the corner is if you time a sidestep absolutely perfect, and they happen to sail past you.
i don’t think i said that at all. imo it’s jot hard to evade and fight bots....it’s essentially the mods you fight and have to get used to....you can recognize bot patterns and learn how to bait sp’s normally but it all comes down to what kind of mod you’re fighting....when playing expert or master people don’t go down the path with the easiest bots to fight. and bye i’ve gotten my arena streak to 48 without doing any infinite glitches so i guess if i had more bots and a lot more time i could probs try going for that 100+
Can Hound, Rhinox or Tact Bee's sp2 be dodged when cornered? Never tried.
- Waspinator
- Megatronus (if you're too poor to get a Roboresource)
- Kickback
- Did I mention Waspinator
- Waspinator
- Starscream
- Dinobot
- Waspinator
- Ultra Magnus
Superconductor 2000 candicates;
- Blaster
- Blaster again
- Prowl
- Megatronus
- Forgot to mention Blaster
- Blaster, again
Super conductor 3000 candicates:
- Robotronus
- Robotronus
- Robotronus
- Robotronus
- Robotronus
Extremely easy specials to avoid:
- Prowl's S1
Hah, beat me too it.
Yeah.
Shockwave sp2 is a back step, then two swipes down.
DOTM Bee sp2 can be really hard if you don't have distance.
Dinobot sp1 again if no distance can be tricky.
Bludgeon sp1 needs distance.
Kickback sp2 needs distance.
Cheetor sp1 needs distance.
Hounds sp2 is a sidestep, pause, sidestep, pause, sidestep before the grenade lands. Can be avoided in the corner.
Rhinox can be back stepped in the corner but I'm not sure about the final blast.
I only struggle with MV1 sp2 when cornered, Blaster sp2 I'm about 50/50. The rest I can do no problem.
Looks like I learnt something new.
1.nothing is undodgable
2.some maybe undodgable when in corner, maybe all dodgable, I don’t know, need a lot of sandbox testing
3.you can maybe beat revenge of king with 0 energy expenditure. I don’t know, again.
Yeah but two quick swipe-down really relieve you from timing it right.
Everything is dodgeable. Just got to know how.
There was a thread along similar lines a few days ago, you can look for that. Prowl sp2, bludgeon sp2, mix sp2 is all covered.
Granted some give more hassle than others (blaster sp2 still gets me now and then) but watch the pro’s and copy them. It’ll set you in good stead.
Blaster's spc2 is horrid. When he charges I just start sidestepping and pray.
not sure you can call it baiting when it more like running away for dear life as he goes MM dashing at you because he know you're not going to attack and give him a sp3
Revenge of the King without energon would be extremely tough. Apparently there are some that can do it, but I would think it is extremely hard to do.
Rulers of Kaon is quite easy for people who have ranked up 5*'s and have a decent roster, but RotK is still exceptionally hard even with a good high level roster.
Prowl special 2 is a dexterity Evade similar to MCoC (just dash back at the right moment to evade)
Shockwave is a swipe up for me to dash into the beam and evade.
I always mess up Megatronus on the timing. Usually because I get greedy fighting 😂
Yes.
However, tact bee S2 is difficult. There are two blasts in that special that you need to sidestep. One in the middle and one at the end. In the corner It's basically backstep, backstep, sidestep, backstep, sidestep. If you have room you often only need one backstep at the start though.
It's like trying to dodge a seizure. I hate that special attack.
trying to dodge a seizure is probably the perfect description for that
this has been happening to me too but I have managed to dodge it. I think it's just a weird timing.
Hope the above helps. Having said that, knowing the theory is one thing, being able to actually do it in time is another. personally, I find Prowl’s SP2 and UM’s SP1 tricky. So if possible, I try to bait Prowl’s SP1 as much as I can, and just brute force UM till he yellow then bait.
Since you have a Chinese nick, just wondering if you are Chinese? We have a Chinese community chat on WeChat. You can look for malijun293020 to add you in. Many Chinese alliances of different levels are in there and we all help each other out.
NOTHING is unpossible. NOTHING! I never have you hurt them. KILL ME!