Maybe it’s just me and have had rotten luck, which wouldn’t surprise me. It puts me off raiding when I see him as the top bot.
You could definitely be catching some bad breaks, it happens for sure.
It's hard to get a lot of the items you need to rank up bots unless you raid. (If not for raids there is no way I'd have so many max sig bots)
Anyway, if you haven't tried already, max forge a Shockwave and stack up those light ranged attacks and see if your luck is better.
I did have a max forge shockwave a while back, but forged him away with most of my 4* in a bit to dupe prowl lol. The only ones I keep now are situational, like cyclonus, g1 bee, prime, WJ, and for base defence only since my main team is autobots, megatronus.
Maybe it’s down to liking a challenge more than my bots themselves can handle. That sp3 always wipes the floor with me. Fighting a high rank 5* tronus probably isn’t the best idea, but then again if there isn’t a challenge the game wouldn’t be fun.
Putting the Grimster at the bottom is just asking for it...
But he's in A tier as well.
Eh, maybe it's just a time paradox.
(Or the difference between duped and unduped).
Yes one is duped the other is not
That opens a can of worms mate. Duped g1 prime might be better than g1 megs, but would you say unduped prime is better than unduped megs? No bleeds where megs still gets that amazing shock, easier route to permanent armour break along with other debuffs etc. And not including synergies as well, Meg probably stands above prime as a stand-alone bot. Ratchet synergy naturally puts prime on a pedestal, but without it.... I’m not sure.
Same goes for starscream. He really shines and merits that ranking when he’s duped, but unduped, again he’s not as valuable, for the utility he offers with his sig.
I don’t mean to pick yourself list apart or anything, but having 2 grimlocks opens up other options and complicates things so much more.... might want to do 2 separate lists in that respect. Or maybe 3 to factor in sig and synergies, as again synergies can really make a bot come alive. Bludgeon with 3 swordmasters synergy gets really nasty when duped. But unduped and without synergies, he doesn’t offer much that drift can’t do better, another bot who also shines with his sig and even more so with synergies.
There’s a lot of factors to consider there, and that’s just 2 bots.
I hear you there. I used to run a decepticon team, but as much as I tried to use an autobot team to get some variety, I kept finding myself drifting towards my old team for the hard stuff. Was running g1 megs, shockwave, galvatron, cyclonus, and sometimes megatronus, more for the synergy and a fodder bot than anything else.
Couldn’t leave grimlock out though, so for the most difficult stuff, he replaced tronus. One thing I hated was running into an unexpected bonecrusher without he right tools. Still got that old habit now, no harm in being prepared for it.
So in an attempt to force myself to adjust to using the autobot team, I forged megs, shockwave and galvatron, my 3 key players. Kept tronus for base defence and cyclonus for if there was a nasty unstoppable mod at any point. Had g1 megs at 5* by that point anyway so although I miss the sig, he’s still useful. Plus I got scream and soundwave so it gives a bit more variety to a new cons team, along with tronus. Still working on ranking them up though
Putting the Grimster at the bottom is just asking for it...
But he's in A tier as well.
Eh, maybe it's just a time paradox.
(Or the difference between duped and unduped).
Yes one is duped the other is not
That opens a can of worms mate. Duped g1 prime might be better than g1 megs, but would you say unduped prime is better than unduped megs? No bleeds where megs still gets that amazing shock, easier route to permanent armour break along with other debuffs etc. And not including synergies as well, Meg probably stands above prime as a stand-alone bot. Ratchet synergy naturally puts prime on a pedestal, but without it.... I’m not sure.
Same goes for starscream. He really shines and merits that ranking when he’s duped, but unduped, again he’s not as valuable, for the utility he offers with his sig.
I don’t mean to pick yourself list apart or anything, but having 2 grimlocks opens up other options and complicates things so much more.... might want to do 2 separate lists in that respect. Or maybe 3 to factor in sig and synergies, as again synergies can really make a bot come alive. Bludgeon with 3 swordmasters synergy gets really nasty when duped. But unduped and without synergies, he doesn’t offer much that drift can’t do better, another bot who also shines with his sig and even more so with synergies.
There’s a lot of factors to consider there, and that’s just 2 bots.
Yes I get your point but grimlock without the dupe is just so trash
Like most of the bots are not really that bad without the dupe but grimlock is just so bad
Putting the Grimster at the bottom is just asking for it...
But he's in A tier as well.
Eh, maybe it's just a time paradox.
(Or the difference between duped and unduped).
Yes one is duped the other is not
That opens a can of worms mate. Duped g1 prime might be better than g1 megs, but would you say unduped prime is better than unduped megs? No bleeds where megs still gets that amazing shock, easier route to permanent armour break along with other debuffs etc. And not including synergies as well, Meg probably stands above prime as a stand-alone bot. Ratchet synergy naturally puts prime on a pedestal, but without it.... I’m not sure.
Same goes for starscream. He really shines and merits that ranking when he’s duped, but unduped, again he’s not as valuable, for the utility he offers with his sig.
I don’t mean to pick yourself list apart or anything, but having 2 grimlocks opens up other options and complicates things so much more.... might want to do 2 separate lists in that respect. Or maybe 3 to factor in sig and synergies, as again synergies can really make a bot come alive. Bludgeon with 3 swordmasters synergy gets really nasty when duped. But unduped and without synergies, he doesn’t offer much that drift can’t do better, another bot who also shines with his sig and even more so with synergies.
There’s a lot of factors to consider there, and that’s just 2 bots.
Yes I get your point but grimlock without the dupe is just so trash
Like most of the bots are not really that bad without the dupe but grimlock is just so bad
I’m going to agree there, but like I said, it would then require multiple lists or a detailed table to be fair to all. Some bots do need their sig or synergies to really shine, sometimes both. Grim being one among many.
@Kitten ok how the fr*ck did you get the image for Wheeljack?
Edit: Nevermind, the list got updated by the creator and now it has 2 WJs for some reason
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He bot them
lmao this is the only valid tier list
Please tell me someone got the reference
I did have a max forge shockwave a while back, but forged him away with most of my 4* in a bit to dupe prowl lol. The only ones I keep now are situational, like cyclonus, g1 bee, prime, WJ, and for base defence only since my main team is autobots, megatronus.
Maybe it’s down to liking a challenge more than my bots themselves can handle. That sp3 always wipes the floor with me. Fighting a high rank 5* tronus probably isn’t the best idea, but then again if there isn’t a challenge the game wouldn’t be fun.
But he's in A tier as well.
Eh, maybe it's just a time paradox.
(Or the difference between duped and unduped).
That opens a can of worms mate. Duped g1 prime might be better than g1 megs, but would you say unduped prime is better than unduped megs? No bleeds where megs still gets that amazing shock, easier route to permanent armour break along with other debuffs etc. And not including synergies as well, Meg probably stands above prime as a stand-alone bot. Ratchet synergy naturally puts prime on a pedestal, but without it.... I’m not sure.
Same goes for starscream. He really shines and merits that ranking when he’s duped, but unduped, again he’s not as valuable, for the utility he offers with his sig.
I don’t mean to pick yourself list apart or anything, but having 2 grimlocks opens up other options and complicates things so much more.... might want to do 2 separate lists in that respect. Or maybe 3 to factor in sig and synergies, as again synergies can really make a bot come alive. Bludgeon with 3 swordmasters synergy gets really nasty when duped. But unduped and without synergies, he doesn’t offer much that drift can’t do better, another bot who also shines with his sig and even more so with synergies.
There’s a lot of factors to consider there, and that’s just 2 bots.
Couldn’t leave grimlock out though, so for the most difficult stuff, he replaced tronus. One thing I hated was running into an unexpected bonecrusher without he right tools. Still got that old habit now, no harm in being prepared for it.
So in an attempt to force myself to adjust to using the autobot team, I forged megs, shockwave and galvatron, my 3 key players. Kept tronus for base defence and cyclonus for if there was a nasty unstoppable mod at any point. Had g1 megs at 5* by that point anyway so although I miss the sig, he’s still useful. Plus I got scream and soundwave so it gives a bit more variety to a new cons team, along with tronus. Still working on ranking them up though
But RHINOX IN C . Now that's hilarious 😂😂
S Tier: Megatronus
A Tier: Prowl, Megatron, Jazz
B Tier: Everyone else
C Tier: Waspinator
D Tier: Hound
Like most of the bots are not really that bad without the dupe but grimlock is just so bad
This is the only correct tier list
Where is the disagree button for this thing?
Highlander
Congratulations for having unique opinions!
I’m going to agree there, but like I said, it would then require multiple lists or a detailed table to be fair to all. Some bots do need their sig or synergies to really shine, sometimes both. Grim being one among many.
Edit: Nevermind, the list got updated by the creator and now it has 2 WJs for some reason
Hit the link kitten posted that scroll down to where it says "create this list" or something like that then hit the button
How did you put the bots on the list?
Drag and drop
Not working for me for some reason