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New Apple store app guidelines require lootbox rates to be disclosed
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News article:
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/17/12/20/apple-revises-developer-guidelines-restricts-loot-boxes-amends-template-generated-app-ban
Developer guidelines:
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#in-app-purchase
Thanks EA.
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/17/12/20/apple-revises-developer-guidelines-restricts-loot-boxes-amends-template-generated-app-ban
Developer guidelines:
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#in-app-purchase
Apps offering “loot boxes” or other mechanisms that provide randomized virtual items for purchase must disclose the odds of receiving each type of item to customers prior to purchase.
Thanks EA.
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We haven't really talked with you all about this much, but want to emphasize - we adhere to any rules, regulations, and laws that we are required to abide by. We are currently working with Apple to better understand these new guidelines, are still learning about them ourselves and what the impact of these changes will be.
We don't currently have any further information to share or discuss at this time, but as soon as that changes, we will let everyone know!
Honestly though, I'm probably not gonna pull any Hive crystals until I see some drop rates.
It's a huge piece of news that will impact the entire gaming scene in a big way and it will take some time for developers all over the world to act on it.
2* - 99%
3* - .9%
4* - 0%
A temmie .1%
The meaning of life, the universe and everything
Seriously though, the "Hive Crystal" would be an ideal one to begin this with, since it's only available for a limited time and after that, old-school Bee seemingly wont be available again. Knowing the odds of actually pulling him might make me consider stumping up the cash for the effort.
If we are taking bets, I'm gonna say that on average, getting a 4* bot through featured crystals is 10% cheaper than getting one through a "guaranteed purchase", which I think is 2,500e these days? That'd mean 2,250e worth of crystals at 120 each, making it one in 19 crystals, or just over 5% for 'any' 4*. To get the 'featured bot' I don't have much to go on, but I reckon about 20% of 3-4* pulls would be the featured bot. Just plucking that number from a random orifice
Do you mean to say that we would misstate the information? We're not liars, or super villains. That would be a terrible idea, and lying has never been our MO. Lying provides us no benefit, and just causes problems for everybody in the end.
Frankly, unless the company has something to hide or rates so low they are embarrassed of, I don't know why most do not disclose this information, anyway. If you can show a fair chance of getting something useful, it only encourages players to spend money.
I’m so jealous right now... if I had Mirage I’d R4 him immediately. Esp with multiple dupes, he’s one of those where the number of dupes/ sig level actually makes a difference. He is really an awesome bot. Learn how to use him.
Ever since it was discovered that the old 1* crystals will always land on a bot you don’t have yet, if there is one in the crystal, I simply cannot believe similar although more subtle trickery is not used in any other crystal. Yet I still buy them.
Agree
I tried to bring attention to the word "misstatement", not a indictment not an accusation aginst Kabam, just a relatevant asserion all parties should be AWARE. Because it happens with biggest and most reputable companeis:
This is just in the news cycle "Apple has acknowledged what many iPhone owners long suspected: It has slowed older phones", they did it delibrately and public always blieved it was a myth.
Great chance to be a pillar in the community and set an example rather than try and use the old way as much as possible until you're not allowed to anymore.
Imagine being one of the first companies to step forward and do the right thing, might even get some good publicity and news articles out of it.
We now have 3 different cash only loot boxes in the shop. A record I believe? Seems like the total opposite direction.
Working with Apple to better understand the guidelines? It's pretty clear, lootboxes require rates, plain and simple. Anything more is just looking for loopholes and reallly not in the spirit of the guidelines. It's about protecting consumers, and trying to find ways around it is not protecting consumers.
What a scary new era of gaming we're entering where developers have to make effort and be creative about how to make money rather than ask people to blindly gamble, "give us money but we won't tell you what your chance of actually winning is".
The notion is so absurd I can't believe it's survived as long as it has without regulation. Thanks to EA for being so incredibly greedy and causing the world to finally wake up a bit about it.
Time for this golden goose to finally be cooked.