Grimlock is good when duped. Just awakening him and you have almost instant purification. But you need his sig higher to increase the damage he deals from the melee buffs he gains from purify. He could use a small tweak to his damage output in general. I.e 100% chance to burn on heavy, which is not the case now if I'm not mistaken, and stun on sp2 because a giant t-rex robot parking his hiny on your head should make you dizzy.
The thing with grimlock that needs looked at, in my opinion, is the duration it takes before he purifies. Primal can at least heal from bleeds and if he has max armour stacks, sometimes come out with more health than before the bleed. Grimlock will be worn down eventually against a really high damaging dot, which is why he needs an instant purify, rather than take a few ticks of dot damage. Primal’s armour dictates that no matter the crit rate of his opponent, he won’t take a crit with armour up. The same mechanic could be applied to grim, but with dot instead. (Luke cage from mcoc style)
Maybe give him an armour+melee buff, make anyone who lands a dot on him really regret it.
GALVATRON really really needs a Dark Burn upgrade.
Nothing wrong with damage output, but the CHANCE that it happens is PATHETIC.
Went on an fight VS a 5* 11K Galvatron on RR (Mine's 5K R5 4* max) yet despite 62 hit combo of melee, (Will of Unicron, 30 charge) i didn't get off a Dark Burn ONCE, with ranged shots.
Finally R3'd THEN got a D Burn (duh).
Against Wheeljack 5* 12K on HA... No chance.
Even if i ninja 86 hits.
As a hilarious addition, even 5K Wheeljack's SP1 whacks 20% of Galvys health.
It's not right Mighty Galvatron gets pwned by WJ EVERY FIGHT
Multiple threads now with guys going on about how they'll quit, or demand refunds, etc just coz Kabam intend to REBALANCE Megatronus.
I get you guys spent/worked on Tronus, but is that all you play for?
A bot that annihilates others so easily it's BARELY a challenge?
Didn't the same punters COMPLAIN they complete D100 with ease?
If they nerfed my favorites (Galvatron, G1 Megs, Motormaster) i would....
USE OTHER BOTS.
FFS
Plus my raid squad isn't even good, with little synergy.
But it consists of characters i LIKE.
Maybe i should demand they be made into borderline cheat characters, with 5 minute invulnerability and anti bleed.
I'm actually 100% behind this list, after DAYS of thought.
Well done @Kabam Vydious and your giant cojones.
And no offense to the pro players who can't make up their minds whether the game's too easy/rage quit rebalance.
If you guys decide to diminish Megatronus in some way, please refund all the resources I grinded to rank him to max level, forge, and sig.
Making bots better is one thing, taking away from them is flat out wrong.
You guys have to stop freaking out. They already said they won’t mess with his kit, only his base stats. Which, if you think about it, won’t impact him that much. He’s really good either way man!
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Hopefully Megatronus nerf isn’t going to take his Prime power away
Everyone on the list are awesome choices to get a buff
But I have to agree with other players that Waspinator and Grimlock need a buff
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Lol 😂 Wheeljack is just fine Grimlock takes him perfect
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Only thing with Jackie is that unlike every other shield/armor/invulnerability health trigger his absorbs any overflow of damage. So unlike Tronus/MV1 etc where you can literally burn through it with a single massive hit Jackie just gets to his trigger point and stops. Thats what makes him tricky.
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Only thing with Jackie is that unlike every other shield/armor/invulnerability health trigger his absorbs any overflow of damage. So unlike Tronus/MV1 etc where you can literally burn through it with a single massive hit Jackie just gets to his trigger point and stops. Thats what makes him tricky.
He is tricky indeed. The only Bots that go around him no problem are Cheetor (that SP1 kills) and, from what I've heard, G1 Bumblebee for his Anti-Shielding.
Pls don’t nerf Megatronus I poured my life and some 3 stars I’ve had since the beginning to get him where he is. He’s carried me through the nightmare that is the final two missions of expert mode and he has been my saving grace
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Only thing with Jackie is that unlike every other shield/armor/invulnerability health trigger his absorbs any overflow of damage. So unlike Tronus/MV1 etc where you can literally burn through it with a single massive hit Jackie just gets to his trigger point and stops. Thats what makes him tricky.
He is tricky indeed. The only Bots that go around him no problem are Cheetor (that SP1 kills) and, from what I've heard, G1 Bumblebee for his Anti-Shielding.
There are plenty of bots that can beat a Nanojack. Cheetor as you mentioned is one of the best, his Feral Strike plus his bleeds make going through his shields a piece of cake. But really any DOT debuff (bleeds, burns, shock and acid) can go through his shield so plan during the fight and he's easy.
I don’t see the issue with nanojack, he has counters, just like primal, tronus, motormaster and others all have counters. No point trying to armour break him then say it’s too hard, or try and bleed a duped primal to death. Find the counter and utilise it.
Or better yet, use him in the manner you have issues with and enjoy it. It goes both ways if you want him nerfed.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
I don't agree with this because he has the ability to repair above those thresholds (and regain a shield). The nano repair combo could be changed but we've been through that discussion at length already. Kabam decided it was fine so no need to go back on this.
Let's GOOOOOOOO!!!! KickBack FTW my peeps! Who knows how I feel?
I think they're nerfing kickback...I hope they don't...he's my favorite scout in the game
No they said he was one of the people getting buffed. Only Megatronus is a t risk of getting nerfed. You actually need to read @Bntyhntr3232_ and not just troll people annoyingly.
For Dinobot, I'm going to speculate that he's going to get a buff since the last one did nothing for him. He also needs a little boost to his abilities to make him more viable.
If only Shieldmasters' Concussive Block can give frame advantage to counter, people will adapt to that unique move set and use it proactively. Otherwise it's only a desperate measure under attack.
There are two things i would address with Dinobot, the delay it has on heavies and SP1 and overall damage.
The animation on the heavy atack pulls the bot back before finally launching him forward. That delay usually is enough for the oposing bot to counter, sidestep or simply move away even if it comes after a 4-5 hit combo.
The other thing is the overall damage. Dinobot seems ok on the surface, but he only shines if paired with swordmaster synergy or after landing a SP1 armor break. There's no real incentive to use block in any fight, just for a chance to get an armor break on the target. Maybe if the armor break would have a chance to place bleeds on the target aswell that might be a game changer. He feels really squishy for a tactitian bot, so using block for instance on path 2.2 in AM gets him bludgeoned.
@Kabam Miike would you take your time to investigate Jetfire's sp3 against Scorponok's sig? Last time in arena, Jetfire's 1st punch triggered Scorpy's regen!
Let's GOOOOOOOO!!!! KickBack FTW my peeps! Who knows how I feel?
I think they're nerfing kickback...I hope they don't...he's my favorite scout in the game
No they said he was one of the people getting buffed. Only Megatronus is a t risk of getting nerfed. You actually need to read @Bntyhntr3232_ and not just troll people annoyingly.
When did they say that megatronus is the Only one getting nerfed?
And they nerfed kickback the day after he came out I wouldn't be surprised if he was nerfed again...but I really hope they buff him
Let's GOOOOOOOO!!!! KickBack FTW my peeps! Who knows how I feel?
I think they're nerfing kickback...I hope they don't...he's my favorite scout in the game
No they said he was one of the people getting buffed. Only Megatronus is a t risk of getting nerfed. You actually need to read @Bntyhntr3232_ and not just troll people annoyingly.
When did they say that megatronus is the Only one getting nerfed?
And they nerfed kickback the day after he came out I wouldn't be surprised if he was nerfed again...but I really hope they buff him
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Maybe give him an armour+melee buff, make anyone who lands a dot on him really regret it.
Nothing wrong with damage output, but the CHANCE that it happens is PATHETIC.
Went on an fight VS a 5* 11K Galvatron on RR (Mine's 5K R5 4* max) yet despite 62 hit combo of melee, (Will of Unicron, 30 charge) i didn't get off a Dark Burn ONCE, with ranged shots.
Finally R3'd THEN got a D Burn (duh).
Against Wheeljack 5* 12K on HA... No chance.
Even if i ninja 86 hits.
As a hilarious addition, even 5K Wheeljack's SP1 whacks 20% of Galvys health.
It's not right Mighty Galvatron gets pwned by WJ EVERY FIGHT
I get you guys spent/worked on Tronus, but is that all you play for?
A bot that annihilates others so easily it's BARELY a challenge?
Didn't the same punters COMPLAIN they complete D100 with ease?
If they nerfed my favorites (Galvatron, G1 Megs, Motormaster) i would....
USE OTHER BOTS.
FFS
Plus my raid squad isn't even good, with little synergy.
But it consists of characters i LIKE.
Maybe i should demand they be made into borderline cheat characters, with 5 minute invulnerability and anti bleed.
I'm actually 100% behind this list, after DAYS of thought.
Well done @Kabam Vydious and your giant cojones.
And no offense to the pro players who can't make up their minds whether the game's too easy/rage quit rebalance.
My $0.02, ☮️
You guys have to stop freaking out. They already said they won’t mess with his kit, only his base stats. Which, if you think about it, won’t impact him that much. He’s really good either way man!
However we don't know what's what as of now and will be updated later, am I getting this right?
That’s exaclty why he needs a nerf. No one bot should complete the content with relative ease.
@Black_Thought i see you've been given flack for this train of thought.
Which i concur with.
I've just R4'd 4* Tronus on RR on my base, and successful raids have decreased by 50%, which is MADNESS.
Not even R5.
sure, there are bots that can completely destroy him (RHINOX), but sheesh.
My pet peeve remains a Wheeljack, 5* with over 9000PI on a 4* HA. What a tosser.
Everyone on the list are awesome choices to get a buff
But I have to agree with other players that Waspinator and Grimlock need a buff
Thanks! I’m not calling for a complete nerf, but he needs an adjustment. Kabam said they won’t mess with his kit. So he can steal health and power.
To be honest they need to fix nano jack too. He should only have one shield at 25% and it only activates once per fight.
Lol 😂 Wheeljack is just fine Grimlock takes him perfect
Only thing with Jackie is that unlike every other shield/armor/invulnerability health trigger his absorbs any overflow of damage. So unlike Tronus/MV1 etc where you can literally burn through it with a single massive hit Jackie just gets to his trigger point and stops. Thats what makes him tricky.
He is tricky indeed. The only Bots that go around him no problem are Cheetor (that SP1 kills) and, from what I've heard, G1 Bumblebee for his Anti-Shielding.
There are plenty of bots that can beat a Nanojack. Cheetor as you mentioned is one of the best, his Feral Strike plus his bleeds make going through his shields a piece of cake. But really any DOT debuff (bleeds, burns, shock and acid) can go through his shield so plan during the fight and he's easy.
Or better yet, use him in the manner you have issues with and enjoy it. It goes both ways if you want him nerfed.
I don't agree with this because he has the ability to repair above those thresholds (and regain a shield). The nano repair combo could be changed but we've been through that discussion at length already. Kabam decided it was fine so no need to go back on this.
I think they're nerfing kickback...I hope they don't...he's my favorite scout in the game
No they said he was one of the people getting buffed. Only Megatronus is a t risk of getting nerfed. You actually need to read @Bntyhntr3232_ and not just troll people annoyingly.
There are two things i would address with Dinobot, the delay it has on heavies and SP1 and overall damage.
The animation on the heavy atack pulls the bot back before finally launching him forward. That delay usually is enough for the oposing bot to counter, sidestep or simply move away even if it comes after a 4-5 hit combo.
The other thing is the overall damage. Dinobot seems ok on the surface, but he only shines if paired with swordmaster synergy or after landing a SP1 armor break. There's no real incentive to use block in any fight, just for a chance to get an armor break on the target. Maybe if the armor break would have a chance to place bleeds on the target aswell that might be a game changer. He feels really squishy for a tactitian bot, so using block for instance on path 2.2 in AM gets him bludgeoned.
When did they say that megatronus is the Only one getting nerfed?
And they nerfed kickback the day after he came out I wouldn't be surprised if he was nerfed again...but I really hope they buff him
Reread the OP